i did not think he was criticizing me, only that he probably has different tastes or his room wasn't treated.
No criticism intended, just trying t ensure anyone following is getting the full info on power requirements. as for my room, I think of it as what most people have, no treatments, but it certainly isn't a 'bright' room, carpet, cloth seating, drapes etc. I also suspect for me to listen at those levels with just my 3808 I am hearing some distortion which as you know is unpleasant, so I don't try to reach those levels; maybe in a few more years I will finally get an amp, until then I am happy with my system.
