After getting my VP160 and adding room treatments, I really starting trying to improve the sound of my 3808. I found a Denon to English dictonary on the web here: http://batpigworld.com/wp/
with it I was finally able to understand all the functions of my AVR. With littel effort I managed to get it to sound better than it ever had before. It was like I bought a totally new system--speakers and all. I recommend giving it a read.

"Not throwing my hands up or my dress above my ears don't mean I ain't awestruck." Al Swearengen