My 8801 looked brand new. perfect from a cosmetic perspective. Also, the unit has worked flawlessly since day 1. I've also bought a NR1604 from accessories4less this year as well. Over the years i have bought several products from this company. They have all been in like new condition, and i've never been able to differentiate between these products and an "off the shelf" product.

I'd have no hesitation in recommending something from them.