These, virtualized through my system, sound 18 feet wide. My ALFRs are 12 feet apart. CRYSTAL clear but the bass has no 'nads. Then I play the real song and the bass is so textured and mellifluous through my subs it is absolutely sinful! I also hear depth not evident in the virtualized rendition.

That bass...oh that bass would melt Ebeneezer's cold, cold heart.

https://youtu.be/pMXFxmxryoU


House of the Rising Sone
Out in the mid or far field
Dedicated mid-woofers are over-rated