Hiya Todd. If you will be buying new, take a look at the new AVR receivers Denon just announced. Seem to be feature rich in relation to the 1804 ( a fine receiver by the way) and priced relatively close to the 1804. With Denon, you pretty much can't make a mistake. Also, if you intend to add an amp later, the 1804 doesn't have the capability to act as a pre pro.