thanks for the replies, I was leaning towards the M22, and I think I will give them a shot, are the axiom subs any good, I have heard from other users that the cheapest model doesn't go as low as one might want for movie application. Can any of you clear this up for me and/or recomend an axoim or other sub for around $350-450 maybe $500 if it is must have. Thanks for the replies, and I hope to hear from you soon