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Wow, people run their VP100s at 80 Hz? I crossed mine at 100 Hz, and I'm pretty happy with it.

I also run mine at 100 hz crossover. Nobody has actually said they cross their VP100 over at 80 Hz, but they have said they cross their QS8s at 80 Hz, and that they have VP100 as well, and that their receiver does not allow separate crossovers for each speaker set, and they don't seem to have an ICBM, so a reasonable assumption would be that their VP100 is also being crossed over at 100 Hz.

Speaking of assumptions -- name that movie -- "remember, when you make an assumption you make an ass out of you and umption"

the long kiss goodnight. oh oh what do i win?

Yep, the receiver has an RCA sub out.

Samuel L. Jackson's best role ever.

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Samuel L. Jackson's best role ever.

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really? i have never seen it i just cheated and googled the qoute. lol

The Long Kiss Goodnight is a fantastic movie. Jackson was, as Peter says, fantastic.

And Geena Davis was also magnificient. She was sexy, cute, terrifying, devoid of morals, and a paradigm of morals at different times.

Highly recommended !

Still waiting to hear from Sony to see if they tell me what the internal crossover freqs for my receiver running in Small Speaker mode. A knowledgeable friend of mine who got the same receiver used didn't know what the crossover was, but said that if he had to guess it would be 80Hz. "Industry Standard?" Let's say for giggles that it turns out to be 150Hz, whould I want to consider running M22's and QS4's as 'Large' speakers and get the full range of freqs? The receiver does have a sub out, so I assume that even if you choose 'Large' speakers the sub still has to get low frequency info while playing in multichannel. However, would that be putting too much of a strain on the M22's. I don't see how it would be any different than running the M22's in 2-channel stereo. Help me out here.

Okay, I've made up my mind, on paper, what my system will be. M22's L/R, VP 100 Center, QS4's Surround, and an HSU STF-1 Sub. Now about speaker placement. I've had a couple back and forths with Alan Lofft on speaker placement and now I'm just wondering if there are any 'real' world situations out there. I was planning on putting the 22's on top of custom made equipment cabinets. The top of these cabinets would be ~28" tall. Based on the dimensions I got off the M22's, this puts the tweeters at around 44" or so. What do y'all have to say about having the 22's up this high? It seems that the stand they recommend is the FMS 16 for the M22's and my scenario has them up another 8". Anyway, thanks for the input.

Speaking of movie quotes and assumptions. Classic movie with "Don't assume. When you assume you make an ASS out of you U and Me."

>>However, would that be putting too much of a strain on the M22's. I don't see how it would be any different than running the M22's in 2-channel stereo. Help me out here.

Nothing wrong with your understanding. The big benefit of running the speakers in "small" is the ability to sound clean at higher volumes because the lowest notes are stripped off so your poor woofers aren't flapping around trying to repro them. It is exactly like stereo, just that DVDs tend to have a lot more bass on the soundtracks than anything you would normally play on a stereo.

The other issue is that when you set to "small" all the speakers roll off at the same frequency and coincidentally the sub picks up at that frequency -- when you set to "large" then each speaker does its own thing in terms of rolling off the low notes, but you can only set one crossover frequency on the sub so (for example) you will probably miss some content off the surrounds (they roll off at the highest fequencies) and center but have good response on the mains (assuming you set the sub crossover in the 60 hz range. If you set the sub crossover higher then both sub and mains will be running from 60-100 hz and you will get a bit of a bump in the response as a result.

All of the above is grossly simplified and you may find that "large" sounds as good or better, but definitely start with "small" first because it is so much easier to get everything working right...