Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Stereo what is the REAL power output of my Pioneer 1015tx

This is how many manufacturers get away with telling consumers their receivers are 100x5.

"The FTC requirement is based entirely on measurements derived from an 8-ohm resistive load, with only two "adjacent" channels driven. To further undermine the issue of real amplifier performance, manufacturers are only mandated to sample their measurements at an easy 1 kHz frequency- no distortion specification required."

http://www.hometoys.com/wrap.php4?/htinews/oct02/articles/nad/defuria.htm

Gotta agree with 2X6 here. No matter how much John knows and how much he trusts corporate America (I'm not insulting him because its obvious he knows a lot, but some people can be too trusting), Not every amplifier manufacturer is gonna be perfectly compliant with (super strict) FTC rules. A Sony rated at 100 channel is not the same as a Denon, or HK. Plain and simple. Whether or not you need 100 continous watts to seven channels for five minutes within rated distortion is not the point. The point is some manufactures accurately and honestly advertise power ratings and some push the envelope. Anyone who is familiar with accounting or finance practices knows what I'm talking about.

Guys, it's unwise to attempt to discuss this area without at least studying the basic(mandatory)regulations for amplifier power ratings, which apparently has not been done in some cases. This has been cited here before, but just to begin, the FTC regulations and rule notice re driven channels should be studied. Comments published by those obviously not familiar with the facts shouldn't be relied on.

To repeat, this is the one area in audio(generally swimming in hogwash)where there are relatively specific regulations which have to be complied with. Power ratings, including frequency range and distortion, are available and independent reviews(e.g. S&V, etc.)confirm that they've been met. No undocumented "trust" is necessary(and I'm hardly the trustful sort after dealing with hundreds of criminals). Learn the facts and save your distrust for those who make baseless claims about players, amplifiers, and even pieces of wire.

so again i have to ask, how do i find out how much power i am really gettin outta my receiver???

One more off-topic post:

I'd pay big bucks to see a court case where JohnK and 2x6 were on opposite sides of the aisle.

Count me in.

Lets get ready to ruuuuuuuuuuumble.......

Can we use this guy as the judge?