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Don, yes a player with better bass management for DVD-As and SACDs(or a separate item such as the Outlaw ICBM)would be helpful on those discs.

How much difference would there be? $300 worth (or whatever an ICBM costs)?

About $200 worth, if you buy a B-Stock ICBM, which is precisely what I did.

I just bought an ICBM 2 weeks ago, big improvement with my Pioneer DV-45A, bigger than I was expecting. I forgot about the B-stock option and paid full price $250.

OK, I've been kicking this question around in my head for a few weeks, and I've got to ask: how is an ICBM different from doing the same thing in your receiver? Or is that another feature that only H/K has? I mean, I know an ICBM makes it easier to run 2 subs, but... What am I missing?

I don't know about your receiver Ken, but when I select the multichannel inputs on my Onkyo, it bypasses all signal processing, including speaker size and crossover, thus sending full range signals to all speakers.

My Denon 2910 has some bass management (speaker size, and distance), but it applies the same crossover point to all speakers. With the ICBM, I can select the appropriate crossover point for each speaker. If your HK applies it bass management to the multichannel inputs, then I don't think an ICBM would be an improvement.

Ken, while listening to SACDs and DVD-A's with a universal player it is connected to the receiver via the 6/8 channel direct inputs so therefore the sound is direct and bass management must be accomplished though the universal player rather than the receiver and most (almost all) universal players do not have any bass management.....this is where the ICBM plays a role, it provides the bass management that the universal player does not.

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You both have answered most of my questions. The H/K 525 has bass management available on the 6/8 input (or I can use them direct). Since I don't have an SACD/DVD-A player, I haven't investigated this, but I imagine that it will fill the role nicely.

Well, that's one piece of equipement I don't need. How about that BFD, now...

HK's bass management is a really strong selling point. I'm enamored with the HK 435. However, HK will not do what a BFD does.

Sorry Jack, we posted at the same time. My H/K did not provide bass management to the multi-channel inputs so the ICBM was a big improvement with my system in the SACD/DVD-A discs.