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Re: Need to buy a new AVR - choices
#126147 01/31/06 01:36 PM
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Sorry, Ken. But, I'm not a newbie. My apologies to all the Denon fans out there, but I just gotta move on. The cake was the wrong flavor.

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#126148 01/31/06 01:45 PM
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i understand your concern. however, i DO have reason to not recommend the HK. I OWNED one for 6 years. I had to replace the cap. in it that caused all channel HUM. read the service manual. it was an easy fix, but brought to light problems with HK's QC.

Also, i've owned an NAD 7175pe from my college days 1986. It still works great today in my office, but I would be hesitent to rec that either given the fact that their ownership has changed and doesn't "seem" to be as well made ( i haven't listened to them recently so this is just my opinion, not my impression of them first hand)

anyway, you dont have to believe me. i just wanted the original poster to think about the yam 2600. it was given the audioholics poy. and for good reason.

the denons are good too, but do not upcode the video. as i stated, this is currently the only receiver which can do this as far as i know (your tv needs hdmi to take advantage of it)





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#126149 01/31/06 02:52 PM
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LB, I wasn't talking about your post. I know you're not a newbie!

Freeflap, I apologize for implicating you in that. Just been a rash of it lately... So what kind of setup do you have? Pictures?


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#126150 01/31/06 03:44 PM
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Take a look at the new Pioneer Elites - you get a lot of functionality for your money (IMO). I believe the VSX-74 goes for around $1500, which is at your level.

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#126151 01/31/06 03:49 PM
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that's ok.

i currently have:
Yamaha 2600 which i am very happy with. i use it as a prepro.
my amp is an ATI 2007. also amazing product.
my front speakers are Onix Ref 1.8
center: Onix ref 100 center and
rears: ref 1.0 I will soon add ref 3 for my fronts.

TV is mitsubishi 65411 65" crt rear proj. Great tv, but alas, no HDMI input. i also have 2 DIY titanic 12" subs, one ported, the other sealed. i did this to get best of both worlds: sealed fast for music and ported deep for movies. the pair work very well and is flat to ~25 hz and down 4-5 db at 20 hz. i measured this using the radioshack spl meter.

If you check the www.av123.com forum, i have pics of my setup in the user gallery. same username. thx

i am here on axiom's site shopping for subs. i am very interested in the ep600 or ep500. I like the subs that my father in law and I built, but want deeper extension and have read glowing reviews of the axioms. i was most impressed by craigsubs comparison to the svs ultra2 twins.



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#126152 01/31/06 05:09 PM
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I like the mixed subs! I currently use a sealed 12" sub (probably the only one on the boards) and kind of favor the sealed design intellectually. On the other hand, I've been extremely impressed with the various other member's subs I've heard, including (and especially!) the EP500 and 600.


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#126153 01/31/06 05:15 PM
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I had considered Yamaha, but the amps had me a little worried. I’ll be driving a set of M80’s (4 ohm) and a set of M22’s in parallel for the center channel which would be what….? Another 4 ohm load I think. I was very close to getting the 4600, but for the money, felt the hk 7300 was the best bang for the buck. I have had no problems with the 7200 until now and the damn thing just has sooooo much power for the 80’s, that I just couldn’t go with anything with less current. – I like things loud. The 7200 damn near keeps up with my Rotel 200X2.

So, the 7300 should be here Friday. If this one craters, I’m gunna shove it somewhere dark and stinky in the nearest HK sales rep that I can find. The 7300 does upscale. Takes in 480i and outputs 480P via component (no dvi). The soon to be released HK 740 converts to 1080 (both dvi/hdmi).


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#126154 01/31/06 05:26 PM
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I followed someone's advice on here (I have read so many posts in the past week that I don't remember who) and downloaded the manual for the 2600. I looked at the areas in the Table of contents to answer some questions about crossover but did not see the answer. Can you set independant crossovers for each speaker? In otherwords could I set the surrounds at 80 but the fronts at 60? Also in reading the manual, it said that I should set the receiver for either 6 ohm or 8 ohm speakers up front. How would I handle have M60 8 ohm fronts and QS8 6 ohms on the rear? Not that I have them yet, but I have great plans.


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#126155 01/31/06 05:52 PM
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i hope you enjoy it. actually the yam 4600 DOES NOT upcode the video like the 2600 does, so i would recommend the lower model over the upper one. i think that the 2600 has stolen a lot of sales away from the upper yam model. the one feature that the higher model has is a built in HD-FM tuner. not sure its worth the extra cost.

To be honest, i wanted the Yam for its preamp / processor features, not the amps. If you read audioholics review, he thought the amp section was fine, but was more impressed with the receiver's preamp section and that this y2600 paired with a separate amp was a killer combo.

yes, the HK has great current output, but i understand that the axioms are an easy load to drive, not like electrostatics, and that any of these receivers would do well with them.





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#126156 01/31/06 05:56 PM
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when I sealed one of the ports, (ala SVS with a foam plug) i measured a drop in output at 30 hz from the sealed sub of about 3 db. but the music aspect became a little tigher and cleaner.

i've read that this is a basic advantage of the sealed (faster) sub (music) and that porting (deeper) is better for movies. so I thought to use both and get the best of both worlds. However, the really DEEP bass i loved is now missing and that's why i would consider the EP600. seems the secret is in the DSP amp which controls the piston action of the driver to keep it linear and clean.



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