James, good for you! I'm jealous.
I respect the tradition, scale and Texas-ness of Shiner. I want to reiterate my other comments on that brand; it can be a fine beer, especially depending upon the atmosphere, circumstances and your expectations.
But it ain't no Bock. Even Shiner enters that beer as an "American Dark Lager" at the GABF. So, it is competing against Weinhard's Dark, maybe Leinenkugels, etc. It is not the same STYLE of beer as Paulaner or other true bocks brewed in Germany or at craft breweries in the US. "Shiner Bock" is an expression of marketing, but not an accurate stylistic classification.
Mark, maybe my recommendation on the Framboise was just more memorable than yours
Whatcha drinking nowadays, anyway? I've been mostly on Maker's Mark, neat, lately. Can't complain.