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URGENT REPLY BACK I would need to know the cause of this problem. I am leaving out of town for more than a week on Monday. After than I am thinking of sending my subwoofer back because time is running up for the 30 trial period. Hey all, I just wanted to update you regarding this issue. I have tested my sub with a new receiver (Yamaha one): http://www.yamaha.ca/av/Receivers/HTR6080B.jspand also got a sub cable. I have used this for testing purposes and not planning of actually owning them. I rented U-571, and I played the depth charge scene. In that scene their was a lot of bass, but not much from what I am suspecting. I just have a gut feeling it can do so much more. I have got plates in a cardboard box about 12 feet away from the sub and they don't rattle. Whats going on? I don't seem to find any objects moving/rattling except a very loose light bulb on my ceiling. Also my couches don't vibrate as well (14 ft from sub) and this is set to 11:30 o'clock position. I find it very strange, because from peoples personal stories and them hearing their subs, I get nothing like that. ----- I have got a sub cable wire coming from line in to pre out sub from the receiver. I set all speakers to small, increased the volume of sub from receiver, and also put the crossover to even 80 Hz. Anythin else I should change from my receiver settings? My basement is 6400 cubic feet or so, and it has wooden floors and the back wall from where the sub is, is made of concrete at its center. Do you think maybe using a SPL meter will be helpful? I am also gonna call an expert at Axiom as well to tell me what is going on.
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I would need to know the cause of this problem. I am leaving out of town for more than a week on Monday. After than I am thinking of sending my subwoofer back because time is running up for the 30 trial period. Contact Axiom and let them know your time plans; they will probably be more than happy to work with you
Hey all, I just wanted to update you regarding this issue.
I have tested my sub with a new receiver (Yamaha one):
http://www.yamaha.ca/av/Receivers/HTR6080B.jsp
and also got a sub cable. I have used this for testing purposes and not planning of actually owning them.
I rented U-571, and I played the depth charge scene. In that scene their was a lot of bass, but not much from what I am suspecting. I agree, I was not as impressed with the depth charges as I was expecting. There are a couple of scenes in Finding Nemo (inside whale and Darla's tap) that blow it away I just have a gut feeling it can do so much more. I have got plates in a cardboard box about 12 feet away from the sub and they don't rattle. Whats going on? I don't seem to find any objects moving/rattling except a very loose light bulb on my ceiling. Also my couches don't vibrate as well (14 ft from sub) and this is set to 11:30 o'clock position. I really am starting to think something isn't set properly. Running that hot should have the drywall coming loose if all is set and calibrated properly.
I find it very strange, because from peoples personal stories and them hearing their subs, I get nothing like that. With a brand new receiver there may be a problem with the EP500. With the settings you're talking about you should seriously have concerns about the integrity of your room. Contact Axiom.
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I have got a sub cable wire coming from line in to pre out sub from the receiver. I set all speakers to small, increased the volume of sub from receiver, and also put the crossover to even 80 Hz. Anythin else I should change from my receiver settings?
My basement is 6400 cubic feet or so, and it has wooden floors and the back wall from where the sub is, is made of concrete at its center.
Do you think maybe using a SPL meter will be helpful? Absolutely! If you don't have your system calibrated it's hard to know where to point to the problem. EDIT: I see that your receiver comes with a microphone, have you run the calibration setup? This would offset the immediate need for a spl meter.
I am also gonna call an expert at Axiom as well to tell me what is going on.
Scott
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Paul,
The depth charge scene definitely shakes my couch with the 600...and my entire upstairs. Did you check to make sure that the frequency cut-off knob on the back is set to "by-pass"? Do you have "sub-woofer on" in the receiver?
Don't get worked up about the 30 day return deadline. Call Axiom and tell them that you are having these issues. I am sure they'll work with you and extend the deadline.
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In addition to MoJos good advice, are you sure that your sub is positioned well within the room?
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Also make sure that your DVD player is connected up right. When you were watching U-571, the display on the receiver should have said Dolby Digital or DTS. If it didn't, then something is hooked up wrong. By the way on Mark's comment, no matter where I positioned the 600 in my space, it shook the whole house. I even positioned it on my landing at the bottom of the basement stairs and it was firing up towards the main level. It made no difference...it was/is an unstoppable force  . You have a larger space than me by about 2500 cubic feet, with a 500 and not a 600 so maybe you do need a corner for greatest thump. But then again Sirquack had a 500 and he has 2500 cubic feet more than you and he was happy.
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Strange, with the receiver , when I play U-571, it doesn't show DTS or DD. It does show Pro Logic II, PCM, and Cinema DSP.
It also shows that all the channels, including the LFE.
The receiver is connected to the T.V with HDMI and DVD to receiver with HDMI also. I have gotten a Oppo DVD player and in the menu it has 5.1 with LFE on as well.
Does it have to be changed to DTS and with no PCM?
BTW, Axiom extended my trail period for 15 days more (Aug. 15). I'm leaving tomm. and will be back about week and half later or so.
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When your audio is connected via HDMI through the receiver it will not show DD or DTS, it should show PCM. This same thing confused me when I first changed to HDMI, so no worries, you are getting the correct sound formats although your receiver shows PCM, what is happening is your DVD player is decoding the audio signal prior to it getting to the receiver. If you are using an optical cable on another device the receiver will show DTS or DD depending on the sound format.
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Unfortunately, I have no experience with HDMI. I am wondering however if the receiver has to be configured to "understand" PCM. Or does it switch to PCM automatically?
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Hdmi receivers should switch automatically, you set Hdmi up in the audio menu on the receiver the same way you assign optical or digital devices.(TV-opt1, DVD-HDMI 1) You usually will have to setup the video device with hdmi, DVD player, Playstation3, HDDVD player in their own menus to output via pcm.
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BTW, I have set the crossover to the mains and sub to 40 Hz (M80's), so I thought both of the components blended well together.
Do you still have the sub x-over set to 40???? That is too low! I would never go any lower than 60 and even 80 is probably fine/better. If you go too low on the x-over you will miss some of the boom-boom you are looking for. And yes with 6500 cubit feet you have a LOT of air to move so you will need to turn it up compared to some others. 
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