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Re: Speaker stand for M80?
MarkSJohnson #174382 08/14/07 12:17 PM
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Hi MarkSJohnson,

Ok... newbie in the room (me). That would actually be perfect because I'll have a horizontal EP600 right there. (risks public humiliation and puts newbie hat on) Is that a serious picture? Could I really set an M80 on the EP600? Something tells me that's not right and that it would bounce off and crash through the screen or something. If it is serious, great! Problem solved. (takes newbie hat off)

Thanks for the info, or the humor. Wish I knew which one it was. I'll just sit over here and wait for the cheers or jeers. Thanks again.

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Re: Speaker stand for M80?
Nuke #174383 08/14/07 01:35 PM
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No, you can't put an m80 on top of the 600, there is a slant to the cabinet on the 600.

I have my m80's about 6-8" from the back wall to allow the low frequencies to filter into the room from the port.

Also, not sure about your understanding of having the center come from the center of the screen, first time I've ever heard that one. Your eyes should be at the bottom or 1/6th up from the bottom of the screen for the best viewing comfort when seated. Your tweeters for L/C/R should be at ear height when seated. This is for music AND movies it makes no difference. Now some people mount their centers above or below the screen BUT angle them up/down towards the listeners ears. This is because they have no other options.


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No, you can't put an m80 on top of the 600, there is a slant to the cabinet on the 600.




That's easy, exchange your EP600 for 2 EP500's (19.5"H)


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Following up on JohnK's question and your response, if you raise the M80 centre, won't the tweeters be too high up? I suppose you could always pitch the M80 forward a bit to point the tweeters down.

With regard to standing them up on the 600, the 600 has an assymetrical cabinet. So you have to somehow prop it up to give the M80 a level surface. The other thing that you may want to check with Axiom on if you plan on doing this is magnetic coupling between the 600 and the M80. This may result in stray currents in the voicecoils or even the M80's cross-over.

My advice is to make provisions for elevated mounting but experiment to find the optimum installation.

Regarding distance from the wall, I know they have a couple mounted at the Axiom factory but that's really for background listening for the employees. The general recommendation for rear-ported speakers is a minimum of 2 feet away from the back wall. Now having said that, if you plan on crossing over to the 600 at 80Hz, I don't think that distance is a factor since the ports are really only working at low frequencies.

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Mojo #174386 08/14/07 02:20 PM
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I used twin M22's because I couldn't fit a third M80 under the screen. That might work for you as well. You could wall mount them behind the screen, but they would still be at ear level with the R/L. You would have a wider dispersion from the center channel with two speakers as well.

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Nuke #174387 08/14/07 02:28 PM
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I was in the process of building stands for my M80s, but due to time constraints, I had to abandon the project for a while. In the mean time, I confiscated two of my wife's end tables (~21" high) and have the M80s sitting on those. Luckily, I remembered to take the spikes off first before placing them on the tables. Now the tweeters on the M80s are roughly the same height as my center channel and to be honest, I can't tell a difference between them sitting on the floor vs. on the tables.




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Following up on JohnK's question and your response, if you raise the M80 centre, won't the tweeters be too high up? I suppose you could always pitch the M80 forward a bit to point the tweeters down.




First, thank you so much to everyone who is chiming in on this thread. It's a knowledge-fest that is really helping me out.

Mojo, this "pitching the M80 down" idea sounds perfect. But the question remains: how do I get the speaker up there? I can't find any speaker stands that can handle an M80.

And for anyone curious about the advantages of this whole idea (M80 center behind the screen), check out this Audioholics article by Chris at SeymourAV. He explains it way better than I could ever hope to. Link to article

Thanks again, all!

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Nuke #174389 08/14/07 02:47 PM
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I knew I've seen it before....

Granted, they're not Axiom DSP Subs.


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Re: Speaker stand for M80?
Nuke #174390 08/14/07 02:57 PM
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I suppose getting an ep500 might work to put the 80 on, not sure...


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Re: Speaker stand for M80?
SirQuack #174391 08/14/07 03:15 PM
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The general recommendation for rear-ported speakers is a minimum of 2 feet away from the back wall.



With the 80's I've found that the minimum distance from rear walls should be around 7 to 8 inches, anything closer and the sound starts to change, something you will want to experiment with.


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