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Hello,
Ok, need help. Building a new house with HT room ( 13w x 24L x 18vaulted ). Planning to order Pioneer 150FD Kuro, Pio 95 BluRay, either Pio 94 Reciever or Denon 3808, with Axiom speakers. Here's my delima: M80's are 4 ohm and the receivers are both 8 ohm. Pioneer says it won't work. JC at Axiom says probably work but Pio 94 may overheat and shut down. He says Denon doesn't have problems even though it's 8 ohms. My question is:
1. Pioneer 0r Denon? 2. Do I go with M60s since they are 8ohms?
rest of the set up is the 150 CC, OS8 surrounds, and
Sub: ( still not sure, but welcome opinions ) 1. Axiom 350, 400, or 500 ( $678, $1100 or $1230 ) 2. SVS PB12 Ultra ( $900 shipped ) 3 Definitive SuperCube 1 ( $800 shipped )
thanks for any help. When spending this kind of money I want to get it right.
- JD
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All three Denon's I've owned have driven the M80's with no problem, the 3808 would have no problems at all with 4 ohms. I would guess the Pioneer should be able to drive the 80's also, but If I had to choose between the two I would go with the Denon. Depending on your budget the EP400, 500 or SVS are all great subs, HSU has some good offerings also.
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JD, welcome. Any amplifier will "work" with 4ohm speakers; the question would be how loud and how long. In most applications the Pioneer should be fine, despite the cautious advice of Pioneer and most other companies, largely for possible liability concerns.
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Thanks for the help. I think this is what I'm going with TV - Pioneer Kuro 150FD Receiver - Denon 3808 Speakers - M80s, 150cc, 2xOS8, EP500 BluRay - Pioneer 95FD Here's a picture of the room: http://s29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/jfdawson/Media%20Room/Buying it all in 2 weeks! Can't wait.....
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Sounds great welcome to the club.
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That looks like a great setup you're putting together. I can't wait to see the finished room full of the new gear.
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JD welcome! Our room dimensions are darn near identical except for our much lower 7 1/2' ceiling height resulting in about half of the cubic area as yours, we have a 7.1 Epic 80/600 system. From my experience with both the 60s as well as the 80s (I have both) *my* suggestion would be the 80s for your 5616 cu. ft. room...which BTW is a very good room size to work with regarding acoustics. I also have an EP600 as well as an EP350 and found that although the 350 is great little sub, the 600 is in another class of it's own so I'd suggest either the EP500 or the 600. I betcha a pair of 500s in that room would be killer! (It's easy to spend your money from where I'm sitting. ) Keep in mind also that you can pre-out a 2 channel amplifier from the receiver to run your 4 ohm 80s if you desire, taking the load from the AVR. Your room looks great, are you installing a 7.1 or a 5.1 system?
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Rick, Thanks. I'm going with 5:1 now because of cost. I do not want to skimp on anything as I'm one of those people that believes in buying the very best you can. I plan to expand it to 7:1 later. I'm married, so for every $ I spend on Media room the wife spends twice that on furniture, shoes, etc.. - Jeff
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My listening room is 16.5 x 26 x 8.5, and little ol' M50s with only 85WPC can cleanly cause my eardrums to clap together in the middle if I push it, so I suspect that M60s will certainly do the trick! As far as subs; I just have a 12" sealed sub with a 275W plate amp and it's more than my sucky listening room can handle already! So a great big ol' bass monster isn't really required. .....although I'd really love a big beautiful EP600 sittin' there! Yeah! Really, really would!! When I showed my Wife a photo of the 600 in light maple with tan grill, and she thought it looked like a band-aid. Shot down by a bad choice of colours.
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I haven't heard any of the other subs although I have read a considerable amount about SVS. From what I have read, the 500 appears to be a more "musical" sub than SVS while doing double-duty for movies. This is very important because not only do you want a sub that's going to reach deep and loud for movie effects, you also want a sub that's going to be articulate and transparent for music.
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