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Can anyone compare the M22 to the Paradgm S2? Are they in the same league? Many thanks!
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Here's a couple of reviews. If you ever do hear the both of them, let us know if the S2s are really worth 5 times more than the M22s. M22 S2
House of the Rising Sone Out in the mid or far field Dedicated mid-woofers are over-rated
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5X? I haven't been able to hear the M22s and would like to know what league they're in. I have a small sized room and wanted to go with bookshelf rather than floorstanders. But I want all the sound. That's what led me to Bose which is pure trash.
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Read this speaker shootout at Audioholics: click here The M22s were able to tie the RBH $1800/pair for the best speaker in the shootout (at the time the M22s were only $400...the RBH were 4.5x as much)
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The Audioholics review was the clincher for me. I'd read the other reviews that are frequently referenced too, but, no disrespect to any of our well informed members here, when Gene and the crew at Audioholics tell you that M22's are great speakers, well... IMHO they're the best informed IMPARTIAL guys on the Net.
My M22's ought to be arriving any day now. The wait has been absolutely killing me.
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All I can say is the M22s do give you all the sound and then some. The detail is equal to that of the best floorstanders, but this detail does come at a price. The M22s will not add extra bass to the recordings so they appear thin. Recordings with good bass will play nicely but most usually have less than what most people are accustomed to. I run mine with a couple extra db in the bass settings on the receiver. If you plan or want a sub to run with them, then you will be missing very little.
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I too have the M22's and love the detail and clarity for music and often use them in HT for movies and Soundstage or Austin City Limits on PBSHD in 5.1
Coldplay, Jewel, John Fogerty, Norah Jones were all on Austin City limits and it was like being there.
I use a sub and while not necessary it really adds to them. If I turn off the sub to compare I really notice that I love these speakers more with my sub.
good luck on your choice.
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It's been a while but I did demo the Studio 20's and 40's years ago when I started my shopping. I like the 40's moreso than the 20's, had a bit more bottom end. Granted that could be resolved with a sub but there are times when I listen w/o a sub. I also compared to some Wharfedale Evo 20's in the same listening room and preferred those. That being said, I ended up with Axiom M22's and I don't regret it much. I only regret not getting M60's right off the bat.
I have some Von Schweikert VR1's which seem a bit more detailed than the M22's but it's not a fair comparison because I havent' really A/B'ed them. They are in different room setups. BUT, the VR1s are more than double. The M22's are definitley a better value.
To ctown's comment, I wholeheartedly agree that Soundstage and Austin City limits are great in HD for music. The 5.1 translates well. I still keep my Jewel on Soundstage on my Tivo. However, I didn't care for Norah (even though I like her music). She seemed like a dead fish during her performance, very lackluster. I wish I could get older performances like Joss Stone on Austin City.
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Every time I hear a great set of bookshelf speakers, a switch to floorstanders makes me want to forget my tiny space and go that route. You started with M22's and went to the M60's? Even with a sub the difference was dramatic?
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I can vouch for a difference. I wouldn't call it dramatic but the sound is more full, certainly noticeable. The M22s lower midrange and below, isn't as full as the M60's. I believe Peter Chenoweth posted about this a while back also. And I find the upper mids and highs on the M60 less clear/detailed, pronounced might be a better way to describe it, than the M22s so there is a trade off.
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