Re: Canadian Health Care System
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GST/PST normally just go into General Revenue - nothing is specifically earmarked for Health per se, other than Health Care Premiums.
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Re: Canadian Health Care System
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How would one firgure the total cost of ones health care. Say a person makes 100K a year what portion could be ear marked for health care.
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Re: Canadian Health Care System
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There are stats available (different ones as it depends often on what is considered "health care" or not). You would need to research it. You may want to just check on of the provinces' web-site. Sometimes there are surprising info there. Statistics Canada would another potential source or Universities with important Health Care or Social Science programs.
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Re: Canadian Health Care System
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Great thread, keep the posts coming. I’ve always wanted to hear first-hand opinions on this subject. IMHO, for what is worth, the problem I see with the private only health-care system is that insurance companies are not required to insure people with pre-existing health conditions or disorders. Precisely those are the ones that really need to be insured. I know that imposing private insurance companies to insure everyone regardless of medical history without exorbitant premiums for the unhealthy is virtually impossible; so the only possibility I see is going universal.
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The costs are picked up mainly through personal higher income tax rates and through an employer health tax which varies from province to province. Here in Ontario the EHT is 2% of employee income. People who make low incomes or unemployed bear very little of the cost.
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insurance companies are not required to insure people with pre-existing health conditions or disorders. Another good point. There is something fundamentally wrong with a health care system in which private insurance companies have a motivated interest to deny care and minimize benefits for their customers so that their shareholders will profit.
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I can tell you this, I am so sick of my insurance company. I won't go into the long details, but my wife needed sinus surgery this year, and it has been a battle to get them to pay what they are supposed to. It was a 2 part procedure, so after the battle for the first piece, they forced us to switch to a different doctor, and now we got a bill from that doctor for $7500 because our insurance didn't pay yet because it is being reviewed to see if it was needed or not. My wife talked to the insurance company literally dozens of times to find out which doctor the insurance company would cover and when she went to that doctor and got the procedure done, we started getting flooded with paperwork including no less than 6 of the exact same form but with different "procedure" numbers on them basically asking if she is covered under any other insurance, blah blah blah... Like I said, seeing the bill today for $7500 has me a little miffed to say it nicely. My wife was already at her maximum out of pocket from the first surgery, so this should have been paid 100%, no questions asked....
Dumb insurance companies.
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Another good point. There is something fundamentally wrong with a health care system in which private insurance companies have a motivated interest to deny care and minimize benefits for their customers so that their shareholders will profit. _________________________ I'll be rich after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet... Is the person who wrote the post the same person who owns that SIG line?
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A coupe other points. The fact that Canada is 1-10th of the population of the US might make this easier to administer, but it still isnt easy. Often the public healthcare system is not a profitable operation, so the purchase of new equipment, sterilizers, beds, surgical tables, etc. isnt easy. Often a new piece of cardiac equipment makes more headlines and gets the funding, while a sterilizer unit that should have been replaced long ago still has to be repaired and used. Its kind of like Jakewash's old sub having to be tolerated because he needed to buy the new LCD TV for his better half. Man, I gotta help him out with capital planning and replacing depreciated assets.
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Hi all,
I started this thread and haven't had a chance to get back to it until now. I was going to assume that people would be calling other people morons by now like that doctor is calling me. In fact, I was going to request Amie to pull it from the Website because I was almost certain of it. Wow!!!! That has not happened. Well at least not yet. It just goes to show you that first class people buy first class products from first class companies. Amie - Do I get extra points for sucking up???????
I really appreciate all of your responses and I'm going to call my discussion quits with my so called "expert" doctor back here in the states. When he insults our good Canadia neighbors, it shows he doesn't know what he's talking about. Here's an example(Don't shoot the messenger and AS ALWAYS - IT'S ONLY HIS COMMENT AND DOES NOT REPRESENT THE FEELINGS OF THE GOOD AMERICAN PEOPLE DOWN HERE!!!!)
This is the response I got from him when I told him that the Canadian people I've talked to wouldn't change their system to ours:
Of course Canadians wouldn't change their system, they're addicted to nanny state socialism, they're motivation for doing something themselves is gone...
There's no point in my continuing my conversation with him.
Should we ask Amie to close this thread? Or has it been enlightening? That is before someone gets out of hand?
Again. Thank you all for your participation.
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