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#211408 - 06/12/08 04:46 PM Re: Tom Cruise... [Re: Capn_Pickard]
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I see your point, but Cruise puts himself out there in the media spotlight. He actively promotes Scientology as the "answer" to all kinds of things. He, himself, has linked himself firmly into what is widely accepted to be a cult. See my post (far) above for references.

So to reflect on his behavior is, to me, analogous to discussing any other news topic, e.g. politics, sports, that's in the public discourse.

Dr. Drew implied that Cruise has issues. He implied that a diagnosis may exist, but he was not diagnosing him. He did not say, "Cruise is bipolar" or "Cruise has thisorthat personality disorder." He did mention that Cruise suffered abuse, which, as the piece says, is fairly common knowledge. He does speculate on what effect that abuse could have on a person, e.g. Cruise.

So, sure, he may have barely crossed a line, but the lawyer's response made me laugh with its bluster and hyperbole. Like a commenter said, any time you throw the Hitler bomb in there, you've lost credibility.

My 2 cents.
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#211409 - 06/12/08 04:56 PM Re: Tom Cruise... [Re: medic8r]
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Good points, both Capn and JP!

That one clip of Cruise espousing Scientology is still fresh in my head, and it will always color my comments toward him.
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#211417 - 06/12/08 07:31 PM Re: Tom Cruise... [Re: St_PatGuy]
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Yeah Sean. That clip haunts me, and gives me pause.
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#211418 - 06/12/08 07:55 PM Re: Tom Cruise... [Re: Ajax]
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I think it gives some women menopause.
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#211422 - 06/12/08 09:29 PM Re: Tom Cruise... [Re: pmbuko]
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Fair enough. Cruise is a celebrity and, as part of that fame comes a relinquishment of certain aspects of privacy that we all enjoy. And I totally agree about the Hitler bomb detracting from the credibility of the statement. It's really hard to take seriously.

But the point that his lawyer was making was that ascribing certain assumed or perceived qualities of the group to all its collective members is a form of discrimination ("cult-ism"?) not unlike that which the nazis used to commit atrocities to the Jews. The difference in magnitude is what makes the analogy ridiculous.

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#211444 - 06/13/08 02:21 AM Re: Tom Cruise... [Re: Capn_Pickard]
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True. What sort of auditory neglect did we all suffer as children to be part of this Axiom cult?
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#211449 - 06/13/08 07:42 AM Re: Tom Cruise... [Re: pmbuko]
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8-tracks and boomboxes?
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#211467 - 06/13/08 10:48 AM Re: Tom Cruise... [Re: medic8r]
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Bingo
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#211470 - 06/13/08 10:59 AM Re: Tom Cruise... [Re: Hutzal]
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Hutz, I'm digging your new avatar.

A-NI-MALLLL!!!

With him and the Swedish Chef, there's been a refreshing Muppet influence around the boards lately.
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#211471 - 06/13/08 11:05 AM Re: Tom Cruise... [Re: medic8r]
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That was one of my favorite shows as a kid.


Still is, now that I think about it.
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