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#205004 - 04/21/08 04:30 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: anthony11]
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But that's with a 100W continuous power rating. Which Axiom does not specify. I would guess that the lower rating is a tad closer. When I drop in my figures (75dB, 25dB headroom) I end up with ~40W. Bump it to 80dB (which is pretty loud, esp with 25dB of headroom), it's 127W.
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#205011 - 04/21/08 05:01 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: Ken.C]
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Most metal grunge isn't going to need 25 db of headroom, try more around 10-15 max., 25 db is in the realm of classical and there is alot of classical pieces out there with that much dynamic range and more. Most recent metal/grunge/pop has very little dynamic range as it isn't good for play on the airwaves.

When you punch in the 10-15 db headroom the power requirements drop quite a bit, for most listening levels 80-95db, IIRC, it usually amounts to around 100WPC.
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#205014 - 04/21/08 05:19 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: jakewash]
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
e. Most recent metal/grunge/pop has very little dynamic range as it isn't good for play on the airwaves.

Most recent metal/pop isn't worth listening to anyway. Bruce Springsteen's f**king it all up ;\)

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#205015 - 04/21/08 05:20 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: jakewash]
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Metal grunge sounds like about 3dB of headroom to me \:\) .

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#205016 - 04/21/08 05:23 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: Mojo]
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Warpigs! I headbang old-school (when I'm not grooving to October Project).

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#205038 - 04/21/08 10:13 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: SirQuack]
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 Originally Posted By: sirquack
If it was me I would give the 60's some real thought. Yes, that Yammy will drive 80's, however, historically Axiom has not had Yamaha on the list of recommended AVR's as lab tests showed they would over heat and shut down. Never models may be beefier, not sure. Rest assured you would not have any concerns with the 60's, and sonically they are very similar to 80's.


Sirquack,
I have said several times that my current ragtag band of speakers is embarrasing - so I am sure that when I pull the trigger if it is to be the M60's, I will be blown out of the water anyway. Maybe I'll go with the 60's (sounds like a mortar - in keeping with the "blown away" analogy) and get one of the custom finishes. Does anyone have the Warm Cherrywood finish out there? What color grill?............Rob
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#205049 - 04/21/08 11:07 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: Argon]
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I have the warm cherrywood m60's w/ burnt sienna grilles. I love those speakers!


Edited by Ascension (04/21/08 11:07 PM)
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#205060 - 04/22/08 02:51 AM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: Ascension]
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I would *love* the real Cherry veneer with the Bordeaux finish - seems like it'd be the closest to matching my new floors. The economics may dictate staying with the vinyl, though :-/

Ascension, how big is the room you have those M60's in, and what are you driving them with?

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#205079 - 04/22/08 09:33 AM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: anthony11]
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Anthony, my first Axiom setup consisted of m60's, I owned them for 2-3 years. My room is 900 Sq Ft and the 60's did a fine job.
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#205154 - 04/22/08 11:03 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: SirQuack]
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26l*17w*7h. It sounds REAL good Anthony. Personally, I don't see a reason for me to go w/ the 80's. Would I like to listen to them, Yes I would, but, I'm perfectly happy w/ my 60's. I'm just waiting for the rest of my system. I'm pushing them right now w/ a HK AVR247. They go way louder than I would ever want to push them.
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