Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners M60 vs M80 dilemna

The QS8's will MAKE your system. You'll find you need to have them included in any "stereo" recording. Just hit 5/7 channel stereo on your receiver. They fill the sound stage without overpowering the primary front speakers while adding a lot of audio information.

Dano, let me suggest that using one of the surround ambience processing modes such as DPLII or Neo:6 with stereo program material generally results in a more realistic effect than does applying all-channel stereo. The all-channel stereo mode simply duplicates the left front sound in the left surrounds and likewise for the right side. This is often suggested for a party, etc. to make the sound levels more consistent throughout the room, but doesn't attempt to get a totally natural effect.

Using DPLII, etc. on the other hand extracts from the front channels only the reflected ambience mixed into them that came from directions other than the front, but had to be put there because there was no other channel to put it in. This is then directed to the surrounds to duplicate the live listening experience a little more closely.

That option wasn't as high on my list as I wish it had been. I suppose I could have ordered both and kept the winner...

Scott

Does anyone know anything about the Axiom factory store? I can get the M60's for about $98 less but they may have a "blenish" that kept them from selling full price. This sounds like a great deal but I would hate to get a set a speakers with a huge gash along the side or chips out of the finish. I guess I could call and see what constitutes a "blemish" I was wondering if anyone has bought from the factory store. Thanks again for your time...

Hey kungfu, the factory seconds are a great deal!. I spoke with Amy about it once and I was told that the standard they use is a '5 foot test' meaning the blemish should not be visible from a distance of 5 foot. I have VaSSallo series M60s which are factory seconds and if you were to look at them, you cant tell unless I told you that they are seconds. As far as the sound quality goes, there is absolutely no odifference between 1sts and 2nds.

Second that. I got my whole setup (subwoofer pending) through the factory outlet. I went over them with a fine tooth comb when I first pulled them out and couldn't find a single problem with any of them.

After that, of course, I had to deal with all those comb marks I put on the speakers...

The only thing I dont like about the 2nds is the wait. I wish they made as many 2nds as the do firsts, but that wont be a good business model, would it?

I have M60's with Denon AVR4308 130 watts per Channel, 2400 cubic feet open into kitchen. Another opening into dining room and 3 openings into stairways. They play louder than I can bare with no distortion, I still fight the urge to get some 80's although I doubt it would be worth the price, these speakers 60's are extremely pleasing to my ear. I also have a 2 channel setup in the sunroom with Sansui 9090 and Pioneer HPM-100's, 33 years old and still kickin. I often go back and foth between rooms. Subtle difference, can't decide wich I like best, I think that's how it would be with 80's v 60's.

Well, I am officially a future owner of a pair of M60's. I went to the factory outlet so I'll have to wait 3 weeks but I saved a little money ($98). I'll probably go ahead and get the QS8's from the outlet also, (that is a good deal). I know they may have "blemishes" but I think I'll be able to live with them.

I'll have those M80's in no time...

Excellent! Welcome to the family.
You'll see, the wait is not painful at all... it is just excruciating...