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Pot calling the kettle black? Why have you posted a private business matter to Axiom's public forum?
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Apparently he doesn't hold himself to the same standards as Axiom.
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It's called free publicity.
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Pretty harsh stuff for a C note.
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I can only hope this was a troll and is not in fact taking place, talk about unethical practices.....
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That's what I was thinking too.
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William, many of us are members of your forum, if in fact you really are legit. This type of communication shows your lack of business ethics and professionalism. I've been an affialiate with Axiom for many years and have had no issues receiving funds for my referrals. I think I'll contact some of the senior members I know from HTS to express my feelings, oh wait your the owner. You obviously are not familiar with Axioms reputation in the industry for 30 years.
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Is there an echo in here?
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Boy that was quick! I was in the middle of a reply and then looked to get a quote and *poof* it was gone.
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Well this is interesting. I go take a shower come back and..................gone.
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It washed all the dirt away, even from here
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Well, I've been gone all day. Did I miss anything?
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Yeah, someone shouting "removed", "removed", "removed"
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It was loud too
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Snowing here Rick, heading your way.
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It snowed here in central Wisconsin for awhile today. Supposed to be more coming. Guess it's time to get the snowblower ready for winter. I'll have a few, or more, beers tonight and think about tomorrow.
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Snow is suppose to be here tomorrow night. I hope not to much I want to smoke a pork butt for pulled pork on Sunday. There's always more beer and snow up in Chedderland Oh and cheese too.
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I am coming to this thread late, and have no idea what transpired but after seeing the OP removing all of his posts this entire thread should be deleted.
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Doc, that generally doesn't happen around here.
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So, now it becomes our playground!
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I like the new avatar Ken, the kids must be getting big. My how time flies by.
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I missed all the fun too... Darnit!
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I'm glad I was around for the halftime show!
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what the hell was this about?!
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Cliff Notes:
HTS: You didn't pay us in a check we can cash in the USA. Ax: Resubmitted another check that could not be cashed in the USA. HTS: Try Again Ax: We are working to help you
3 months pass... $120+ still not paid
HTS posts complaint.
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Cliff Notes:
HTS: You didn't pay us in a check we can cash in the USA. Ax: Resubmitted another check that could not be cashed in the USA. HTS: Try Again Ax: We are working to help you
3 months pass... $120+ still not paid
HTS posts complaint. ah I see a disgruntled expectant of being paid. An owner of speakers who shows them solely for the purpose of obtaining the amazing amount of dollars that you get from showing your speakers. okay then moving on...
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No not an axiom speaker owner, an internet site sporting a link to axiom speakers
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No not an axiom speaker owner, an internet site sporting a link to axiom speakers even worse so, moving even further along. . .
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Actually it's better, a disgruntled axiom owner, now THAT would be a bad thing . . .
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.... a disgruntled axiom owner, . . . Is there such a thing? I think not! The whole thing was rediculous; to stoop so low as to post something like that. Makes you wonder about his idea of ethics.
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All I know is I will no longer frequent as a member of that forum if he/she was legit. I know a few of the moderators, so may pass on a PM. Also, if it is legit, I will no longer be a fanboy of REW.
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Thanks for filling us in.
If I was Axiom I would remove my advertisting from that forum in a second. To take private business matters and post them on a public message board is uncalled for.
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Hint taken
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I don't feel it's proper to discuss -- even to sum up in Cliff Notes style -- what transpired. That's what PMs are for. <<hint>>
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This thread should be just deleted by a moderator.
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Well PM, sorry to answer questions... It was my summary, and I live in a free country.
If I feel to leave honest Cliff Notes, which were accurate, it's my choice.
And, IMHO, if the original poster is honest... Although this in not the proper forum for his complaint, he should have been paid long ago.
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Agreed SRoode. I am not changing my post but if the mods feel like they want to delete any messages or this entire thread then by all means....
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It's certainly your choice -- I'm not a moderator -- but it's not an issue of free speech since posting here is a privilege granted by Axiom. With this in mind, if they saw fit to delete the original posts, why repeat the content of those posts for all to see? Just so we're clear, I'm trying to have a civilized discussion, not an argument.
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Like any company, Axiom may make a few mistakes as their employees are human. I'm sure this guy has a bunch of robots working for him. Anyway, as most of us have experienced, Axiom holds true to their referral and affiliate programs, at least in the 5+years I've been around.
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Never doubted Axiom (which is why I'm here every night). We all make mistakes too... But, if he is telling the truth, 3 months is way too long. How would you feel if someone promised you something and 3 months later you did not get it?
Anyway Pete, I feel my discussions have always been civilized.
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Removed
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Now I am part of the fun! Woohoo!
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Farewell - June 4, 2020
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Anyway Pete, I feel my discussions have always been civilized. Gaah. Stupid internet. I wasn't trying to imply they were not. I just wanted to be sure you were interpreting my comments in the same way.
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Hah! Cool!
Had to edit... Replying to Nick.
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It's not just the word, it's the way you say it that matters. Yours is missing the little "I don't know what" that would make it a heart-felt "removed".
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I know Pete. Just wanted to give everyone the benefit of the doubt (both this person and Axiom) before condemnation.
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Steve - thanks for posting the cliff notes... I don't see any harm in it either (free speech in Axiom land and all that) If nothing else, it puts the scope of the issue in a clear light. Doing something like this over that amount of money... yeesh.
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Maybe the bank was refusing to cash the cheque as they were waiting for the bailout from the feds? Just kidding
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How would you feel if someone promised you something and 3 months later you did not get it?
I’d feel like we just had an election. Maybe the bank was refusing to cash the cheque as they were waiting for the bailout from the feds? Just kidding
Or they saw “Cheque” written on it and said that they couldn’t accept it because they only take “Checks.” Many people here understand American not necessarily English.
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Grunt, I loved your post!
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Ditto that... classic.
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