Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Crossover Settings and.. To Audyssey or Not....

I also concluded I prefer Audyssey off. I also have my front speakers set back to large and LFE+main. (careful some consider this heresy) Good thing I live in an apartment of my poor Denon would probably fry.

Just this week I purchased the new Integra 9.9, which of course has Auddesy. When I set it up as stated in the manual I found the setting very wacky in terms of mostly -12 volume settings for each channel. My M80s set to full range with everything else set to small - not to mention my sub set to 120.
The surrounds and rears were set way to low, they couldn't even be heard. Finally I spoke to a friend I know who is a professional installer and Auddesy tech. He told me to re-do the Auddessy but ingnor the manual. Instead of thinking ovals in terms of seating postions do a diamond. First do your main seating postion, then the other to the right and left. Next do a reading at least 18" IN FRONT of the main postion. Then do another at least 18" BEHIND the main postion. He said this "diamond" configuration balances out the Auddessy giving it more to work with when it calibrates. I haven't tried it yet - hope to today. Maybe he's right and it will turn out better. So far I'm not impressed and wind up just setting it myself. But I will give it another chance.
- Scott

Pair of M80s
VP150
2 Pairs of QS8
EP600
A1400-8
Integra 9.9
Sony BXR4 50" LDC

Ditcin -

If you haven't already, you might want to check this thread re: Audyssey setup. Following the steps in the document referenced there from AVS forum improved my Audyssey results significantly.

Jason

I'd like to put this Audyssey thing to bed. I've rerun the
setup numerous times and I'm just not sure if I like it or not.
It seems to enhance the surrounds, but the boomy over done
bass is just anoying. I understand that the bass problem is due
to bad mixing on some TV and movies. I worry the tweaking done by
Audyssey is artificaly coloring the great sound of my Axioms.
Also Alan seems pretty dead set against it.

I played around with Audyssey a bit more and I have come to the conclusion from my experience that it is EVIL. Audyssey messed up everything so bad that I had to reset my Denon to its manufacturer settings and then re-calibrate.

Nothing beats a simple SPL meter IMO.

The best thing I can suggest to you John is that if you don’t like the sound of it just don’t use it. I think it works fine for most people but it made my speakers sound like crap. By copying the EQ curve to the manual EQ on my Denon I was able to see that Audyssey was setting the frequencies around 150-500Hz to anywhere from about -6dB to -9dB making them all my speakers sound hollow and tinny. Perhaps something in my equipment like the mic is defective because I tried everything including resetting the factory defaults in the receiver and starting from scratch. I finally got tired of wasting my time with it and now just use the auto setup to set speaker distances. I will give it a try again when I move to another room but for now Audyssey is out.

I wish I could be more help but my only solution was to stop using it for now.

P.S What the Doc said!

I wish there was more real-world info on the coming Trinnov system...

Doc/Dean - are your experiences pre- or post feature pack upgrade on the Denon (or both)?

I ask because my experience was exactly the same as yours before the last update. However, with the feature pack upgrade and dynamic EQ enabled, it is night & day different from the way it was before, and clearly an improvement in sound in my room.

Since the upgrade, I've only found one video on which I liked the sound better with Audyssey off, and that was this weekend with the Rush Blu-Ray. On that, the surround mix is just a bit too strong and the echoes of Geddy's voice a bit to "reverbacious." It reminds me a little of what you get when you select the "Wide" or "Concert" DSP mode on a receiver.

Of course, your mileage may vary, but on the balance, I've found it very good since the last upgrade.

Jason

To the best of my knowledge there isn’t an upgrade for the 2807 but thanks for the suggestion as I will check again.

Sure there is, it is the 3808