Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners No "toe In", no EQ...straight ahead, pure direct

Hi guys, just wanted to share my discovery, it may be old for some. I have eliminated everything in terms of processing, Ypao, etc...and it does sound way better...but I think the thing that did it for me is the no toe in of my axioms (m60)...what a difference. My room is only 11 x 12, my speakers are 7.5 feet from me. Absolutely no toe in has given me a wide soundstage...very nice! Try it, give yourself a chance to adjust....I hope it works for u as good as it did for me! BTW speakers are 1.5 2 feet from backwall and 5.5 feet apart

Thanks for posting - I haven't experimented with toe-in for quite a while. It's an easy tweak to make to experiment, I might give it a try.

Good idea... maybe I will do the same. I am going to wait until after the holdiays and then I will re-run audyssey with the 3808 feauter upgrade. I may experiment more with sub placement and toe in as well.

Hi osvi, I also prefer my M80s w/o processing and no toe-in. Unfortunately I have a wall on one side and an open dining area on the other so toe-in actually works better for music. But for movies the wall doesn’t seem to mess things up so I turn them straight out.

Another thing that helped open up the front soundstage for me was to get them up off the ground a few inches. They are now sitting on cinderblocks about 6 inches off the ground.

Ah yes, another one finds out about the detrimental effects of too much toe in and that it takes very little, if any with Axioms. I always rememeber Mojo's amazement when he turned his out a little and how much better they sounded.

I have no EQ and just a slight bit of toe-in, works great.

No toe in, no EQ, I like how it sounds.

To "toe-in" or not to "toe-in" probably depends on a few things. In my particular case because of equipment shelving and space limitations, the mains(M60's) are spread out probably a little more than they should be on each side of my monitor. I am also dealing with sitting less than 10 feet from the TV. Because of this if the L/R spkrs were placed straight out, individuals sitting at either end of the couch would have the one speaker on their side dominating the listening area. By toeing them in a few degrees, it minimizes this problem. In the end, it is all about experimentation and what sounds best for the viewer/listener in his or her environment.

I agree Casey totally about having the speakers aimed straight out, that was the same experience I heard. With the slight toe in, the speaker opposite helped to center the voices to the center of the soundstage as it should..

are we talking toe in for home theater or music or both?