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From my experience concerning the m80's I think they actually sound better when you give them some juice, they really start to sing at round 90 db, as long as you feed them clean power, and that is the real key.

For the record, my fav. speaker is the B&W 703. To me it's a perfect speaker (nuff said), if you can afford it and it's matching siblings (center and rears). At more than twice the price of the M80's however, it is greatly over priced and in many ways you are paying for the name. I found the M80's a very very close match to the 703, without the heafty price tag and allowed me to stay married. LOL.

paul

Yeah, yeah, yeah... Whatever. Those socks are gray just like my undies are brown.

Touche'

Bill,
Brand new to thread today and chomping to pull the trigger on:
M60, VP150, QS8 surr, M2 7.1 backs. I can not consider trying to be accepted as a plebe into the (secret ) M80 club because my Denon 1909 90wpc, precludes that, er, honor(???).

Iv'e heard another guy over on AVS mention M2 as a better center than the VP150. Any problem laving the m2 on it's side as a center? What exactly are issues that some may have with the VP150 for the center? I'd guess most feel the 150 is best for center and great. I'd just like to hear the (center) M2 fan's reason for their preference. Especially since I may place my order tomorrow!

Also, I have not be enable to find comments on how people have been satisfied about buying from the factory outlet. What kind of blems are common? Anything real obvious like torn or broken spkr covers? The only Axiom quality negative I've heard, is that the spkr covers seem a bit cheap. I can be careful, so not a deal breaker for me. Is the buying from the factory outlet a no brainer where the blems are hardly noticeable?
tks, Dave
Thanks, Dave

I bought my enitre Epic 80/500 from the factory 2nd's. That was almost 5 years ago. I still can't find the blemish on any of the speakers.

paul

The reason I didn't buy from the Factory Outlet is impatience. Otherwise, going by all accounts, I would have had no trouble buying from there.

I wouldn't put the M2 on its side. It was designed to be vertical, just as the 100 and 150 were designed for horizontal dispersion. I've never found the VP150 lacking, so I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it, but I do plan on trying a vertical center (or centers) down the road. If you can accommodate the height of the vertical M2, I'd go that way. Otherwise, I think you'll be served well by the VP150.

Dave, keep in mind that some people choose a bookshelf(s) due to space restrictions over the VP100 and VP150. Some use a bookshelf below and one above their screens, but in many cases(not all) it is about space restrictions: Alan at Axiom, in fact uses this setup in his NY apt. I asked a similar question a few weeks ago on the forums (M22s vs VP150 as centre) and for the most part, I think more by default, because many haven't tried using bookshelfs for centres, the choice was the VP150 but there are several members who liked/preferred the bookshelf setup too. If you're seriously considering the M2 as a centre, I would contact Alan by pm/email and get his input.

Dave, when I said I'm not sold on the 150 it may be my set-up. I have a 52" LCD on a long low (18" high) BDI stand. There is only one glass shelf under it and I have the 150 there. I did just turn the 150 over recently so that it tilts up toward the listener position and it seems a bit better now. The M22 front tweeters are pretty much at the level of the TV screen center. When I ran "phantom center" in the past it sounded better to me. There are just my impressions.

Have you tried the 150 above the TV?

I have wondered if there is an on top of TV mounting solution sold for a center on top of a large DLP? Mine is a 73" Mits. where the screen is 61" high and only 3" thick at the top. mtg on top would likely make the TV even more dominating in the room(not a plus with the WAF). Now I have the center on the glass shelf of the OEM cabinet.