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#252794 - 03/20/09 11:35 AM Re: looking to buy [Re: Wid]
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hi guys my speakers are here and i'm trying to get them right can someone please help or my wife are going to make me send them back. i'm useing audyssey and it set the speakers crossovers to m60=150 m150=60 Qs8 90 / 100 is this right?

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#252795 - 03/20/09 11:37 AM Re: looking to buy [Re: fbcoach]
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No, that's pretty wrong. The M60s should be crossed at 80 or less. Are you sure that all the drivers are working properly? (as in, stick your ear up to each one of them and make sure they're running). What often happens is that the straps between the upper and lower binding posts get disconnected, resulting in either no bass or no treble (depending on which set of binding posts the cables are hooked to. Sounds like you're missing the bass on the 60s.

Can you go into more detail on what's wrong?
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#252797 - 03/20/09 11:54 AM Re: looking to buy [Re: Ken.C]
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well i reran audyssey and this time it set everything this way m60=150 m150=60 Qs8 90/120. i'm nwe it this stuff but i'm trying to keep these speakers but say for the money thingss must get better

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#252799 - 03/20/09 12:00 PM Re: looking to buy [Re: fbcoach]
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I wouldn't trust Audyssey's crossover settings.
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#252800 - 03/20/09 12:00 PM Re: looking to buy [Re: fbcoach]
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i dont think the drivers are working, how if i can fix this problem?

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#252801 - 03/20/09 12:01 PM Re: looking to buy [Re: fbcoach]
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thingss must get better


As I'm sure they will. Something's not right if that's where Audyssey set things.

Check the pieces of metal on the back between the four binding posts (where the speakers connect) and make sure they're connected.
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#252803 - 03/20/09 12:03 PM Re: looking to buy [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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they are

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#252804 - 03/20/09 12:04 PM Re: looking to buy [Re: fbcoach]
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And you put your ears up to each driver while playing full-range music?

Turn off Audyssey and set your speakers to "large".
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#252805 - 03/20/09 12:09 PM Re: looking to buy [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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i'm asumming that will be full band on my 805 correct

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#252807 - 03/20/09 12:12 PM Re: looking to buy [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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I agree with Mark. Unless you turn Audyssey (or any form of equalization,) off, you are not critically listening to the speakers but to speakers being drastically effected by whatever frequency modifications it chooses to add. This has the potential to slightly, but often drastically, alter the sound.

I'm not saying that you can't tweak Audyssey later on or that something else might mot also be wrong, but to truly evaluate the speakers themselves, you should first listen to what they sound like in their more pure, unaltered form.

In my M60 setup, in my particular room, I was extremely unhappy with the results that Audyssey would invoke on the sound. I tried many variations of setup and tweaking but it always appeared thin on vocals, lacking bass, and the highs sounded dull. I have an admittedly reflective room but it seemed to have overreacted. I turned it off and never looked back.

For others, it might be a blessing, but my first listen to any new speaker would always be to listen to it alone to at least get a baseline before attempting to tweak.


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