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Re: M33 V2 As center channel
grunt #266469 07/18/09 06:48 PM
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 Originally Posted By: grunt
 Originally Posted By: Micah

Yeah but why not save 10% while he's at it? The only downfall is having to wait 4 - 6 weeks.


Why not let him and others who may be reading this thread know there is another option to buy a single speaker other than the factory outlet in case they don’t want to wait?



Because allowing that information to fall into the hands of the masses eliminates our position atop of the heap, it weakens the foundations of the establishment and we will crumble to the... oh heck I'm just kidding!

What's that quote from, 'V for Vandetta'?


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Re: M33 V2 As center channel
Micah #266471 07/18/09 07:21 PM
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Yes that’s from “V for Vendetta.” normally wouldn’t like such a moody movie but it did must have something to do with Natalie Portman. ;\)

As for the information flow I’m just trying to help keep what spreads around internet forums about Axiom that I read real. Once bad or even IMO disinformation gets started it almost never really goes away. I’ve lost track of how many posts say that the M80s don’t have any bass or that Axiom speakers make your ears bleed. Though interestingly most of that crap seemed to stop when a certain set of fanboys quieted down recently.


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Re: M33 V2 As center channel
grunt #266505 07/19/09 09:02 AM
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Very true. I was just reading a post on AudiogoN forums about a problem a guy had with an Emotiva amp and his system. He had an Axiom setup, and so naturally most of the comments directed towards him were, "oh I've always heard Axioms were on the bright side, you should look at getting different speakers", yada yada yada... What on earth are they talking about???

But then again the same forum that was saying the Axioms were bright was also telling him he needed to turn the system up and play it for a while to get everything including the CORDS broken in... ah yes of course, that must have been the problem... the cords just hadn't been run long enough to allow all of that precious bass to flow freely down into the bottom of his M80's.

I must say, as awesome as I feel my system sounds, I simply can't wait until all my cords are completely broken in and I can experience the full bandwidth presentation of the music!!! Yeah right!


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Re: M33 V2 As center channel
Micah #266506 07/19/09 09:06 AM
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Oh hey Grunt, I just now noticed in your system discription it shows that you have 3 M80's.... I'm curious, where does the 3rd M80 fit in?


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Re: M33 V2 As center channel
Micah #266507 07/19/09 10:19 AM
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In my apartment it was my center speaker:



Now it’s mostly sitting off to the side while I’m temporarily using an M22 as the center below the TV until I get off my lazy procrastinating backside and order a projector and screen. Once I get the screen up it will be back in the center role with all 3 M80s below the screen.


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Re: M33 V2 As center channel
grunt #266551 07/20/09 01:19 AM
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I don't know if any of you have seen "Between Two Ferns with Zach Galifianakis", but now when ever someone brings up V for Vendetta his skit with Natalie Portman is the first thing that pops into my head...

In a related note, I have actually found the VP150 to almost be overkill in my specific situation, and if I could do things again I probably would have gone with a VP100 or vertical M22 center (small apartment setup). Although, I do like the fact that I never have to worry about upgrading my center channel.


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Re: M33 V2 As center channel
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 Originally Posted By: Golden


Very nice.

Re: M33 V2 As center channel
grunt #266569 07/20/09 02:48 AM
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 Originally Posted By: grunt
In my apartment it was my center speaker:



Now it’s mostly sitting off to the side while I’m temporarily using an M22 as the center below the TV until I get off my lazy procrastinating backside and order a projector and screen. Once I get the screen up it will be back in the center role with all 3 M80s below the screen.



Ok now I'm really cornfused... if you have an M22 employed to do the center channel duty, what does your VP150 do?

You're not what they call, "orthodox" are you? lol


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Re: M33 V2 As center channel
Micah #266577 07/20/09 03:47 AM
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Right now it’s collecting dust. I’ve experimented with the VP150 as a single rear channel in a 6.1 configuration. It did well but right now I’m using a QS8 back there. I think the M22 blends better with the M80s than the VP150 which is why I’m using the M22 right now until I get the projector and screen going at which time the 3rd M80 will go back to being the center channel.

I will also probably need some sort of amp to help run everything. My receiver could handle 3 x M80s and 4 x QS8s in the apartment but this room is much bigger and my seating distance is almost double so I’ll probably be getting an amp(s) but haven’t figured out what yet.

 Originally Posted By: Micah

You're not what they call, "orthodox" are you? lol


People do seem to think I take after my avatar. ;\)


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Re: M33 V2 As center channel
Golden #266585 07/20/09 08:08 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Golden


In a related note, I have actually found the VP150 to almost be overkill



I don't think I've ever considered any speaker to be 'overkill' until I saw a guy using an M80 as a center channel...


Just kidding! Seriously though, even an M80 would work as long as you adjusted for distance and level correctly in your reciever. You can easily avoid 'overkill' with proper tuning and set-up. Is the dialog coming off a bit too strong for your tastes using the VP150? If so try setting it down a few db's and maybe turn the towers up a few db's. Keep experimenting until you find a happy medium that suits you. Remember there is no 'right or wrong' way to set your system up. There's only what you like and what you don't like.

A lot of people like to have the dialog firmly anchored in the middle of the screen. But myself, I like to spread the sound out to the mains a little more. So I have my center channel set at zero, and the left and right towers dialed up to +3. This gives me the sound I'm looking for. Now a professional audio man might come in, wave his wand around and tell me I'm WAAAAY off, and that I'm not listening to my movies the way they were meant to be listened to... who cares?

If my set-up brings me more enjoyment than the way the sound editor out in Hollywood intended for me to listen to it, then so be it. So detune that VP150 if it's over powering your M60's my man. It's your party, you can cry if you want to!


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