Re: How would I build an axiom home theatre for 1kish?
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The M22s will pull 200W per chanel according to specs. Just to be clear speakers do not PULL power out of an amp, speakers offer resistance (4, 8, 16 ohms etc) to power flow. The amp feeds them power and in this case the M22 can handle 200W per speaker without failing; as long as it is clean power. Picky, picky, picky! The M22 speaker will laugh in the face of power sources less than 200W! Better? :p snazzed
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Still, a 350 Watt amp driving M22s to uncomfortable listening levels, but not near it's limit will cause less damage than a 75 Watt amp driven hard into clipping. The later will more than likely ruin the tweeters.
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Ah I see, so ideally having an amp with a higher head-room would keep the sound cleaner. nifty. I am learning a lot from you guys tyvm. Next question. :P I have a set of bluesky media 2.1's... If I wanted to could I integrate the satalights into an axiom set up to save cash initially? Here are my current left and right channels. Was thinking maybe with a splitter they could make a good center channel. You can see a pic of my current two sats in the top right. I think they could be driven by the amplifier. http://abluesky.com/products/mediadesk-2-1-mkii/
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So right now I am convinced that I need m22's, any "decent" subwoofer. has anyone tried the vp125 axiom made? the low end 375 dollar one?
And those rear surrounds look dreamy, so for sure I am buying axiom m22's and the rear surrounds, and very likely a low end woofer from them so I don't shake the house.
Oh this may sound like a silly question but are Axion speakers considered to be full range? I know my old ones are, I bought them for 500 dollars, they seem kind of wimpy compared to the axioms but I am curious in terms of range how they stack up? I am sure they will be better cut just curious.
By the way thank you all so much for all this help. Your awesome. :P
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Say say, I was looking around that webpage you pointed me to JonK and found this. http://www.dakmart.com/p11038/Denon-AVR-...oduct_info.html Value wise it is not better than the one you pointed me to but it allows me to grow my system, also I read in a 5.1 configuration you can double amp two main speakers, so if I got an m60 or something it might be able to provide it with some more juice anyway. do you think that one or save cash and go for the 589?
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Depends on your idea of full range. Will they play most notes, yes they can. Will they play thunderous bass notes below 30hz, no they won't and very few speakers will.
Axiom floorstanders would be considered full range for all but the most demanding of low notes in music and HT. The bookshelf speakers are good down to 60-80hz then taper off rapidly which is why a good subwoofer is required to fill in the lack of low frequency response. Most bookshelf speakers produced by any manufacturer operate this way even though some try to say they are full range.
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The double amp feature does nothing to increase the power output, it simply allows the lower frequencies to be played via the same output wattage that is available to the mids and uppers. It will cost you more in that you also need to buy more wire which is why some call this Buy-wiring (Bi-wire) a speaker.
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I see, all good to know. Okay next question.
Do av receivers have non-powered outs? For example I have a powered subwoofer currently, was thinking I could stagger my upgrade if I could run a non powered rca or xlr out to my existing woofer. Just a thought.
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These days most receivers do not have non-powered, pre-amp outputs. That's a feature reserved for higher-end receivers (which are less likely to need external amps, it's a paradox).
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Next question. :P I have a set of bluesky media 2.1's...
If I wanted to could I integrate the satalights into an axiom set up to save cash initially? Here are my current left and right channels.
Was thinking maybe with a splitter they could make a good center channel. Those are powered speakers. They have an amp built in and so need a low level signal from a pre-am/pre-out. I don't think that you can asign the center or surround channels to pre-outs in a receiver.
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