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Re: VP180..wait to buy it if..
LRA #326461 10/24/10 03:46 PM
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I agree on the VP150 vs VP180 comment. The only thing that would probably be better is M80 center but it's very hard to accommodate for most of us so I would say that in that case, the VP180 is as close to perfect as it can be.


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bdpf #326503 10/25/10 03:16 AM
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So the VP180 is great with the M80s, and the VP150 is good for the M60s... Any reason to fork out all that extra dough to go from a VP150 to a VP180 in I have M60 fronts? No more trade in program, and I don't think that I would get a whole lot for a used VP150 (maybe, I guess) in Axiom Cash....


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nickbuol #326507 10/25/10 03:55 AM
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Or you could hold out (have them design one for you) for a VP160. wink


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grunt #326514 10/25/10 12:55 PM
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Sorry guys, but I have to dissagree with the 150 vs 180 conclusion here.

I owned a 150 for over 5 years and think is it an excellent C. speaker. The only issue I had with it was it sounded a little thin with male dialogue. The VP180 solves that problem.

I don't think the matching the 150 with m60's is going to cure the male voice issue. Match this with any speaker from any company and you will still have a thin sounding male voice.


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Re: VP180..wait to buy it if..
grunt #326518 10/25/10 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: grunt
Or you could hold out (have them design one for you) for a VP160. wink


Yeah. The matching driver complement to a M60 would be a WM^TW design too. smile


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Re: VP180..wait to buy it if..
BlueJays1 #326519 10/25/10 02:08 PM
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The MT/WM design: the ribbon tweeter of center channels.


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Ken.C #326521 10/25/10 02:13 PM
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I would still use a VP180 with the M60s. As mentioned, the VP150 sounded thin. The other problem that I had was for some concerts where the bass guitar comes mostly from the center, it was very weak. It is just a better speaker overall if you can accomodate the size. I had both at the same time in my house and for me, it was worth the extra $300, for others, it might not.


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Re: VP180..wait to buy it if..
bdpf #326544 10/25/10 05:21 PM
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I have to agree based on my tests of the VP150 and M80 as center speakers. I owned both for over 2 years and did extensive comparisons in two different rooms and the results were always the same. The VP150 center sounded thin and often hollow compared to the M80. Most noticeable were the VP150s weekness in bass and thinness or sometimes nasal quality in male voices. Neither I nor any of my friends I tested it on need to A/B compare them to hear the difference it was so obvious.

While the M80 isn’t the same layout as the VP180 it has the same drive complement and likely similar sonic characteristics except for dispersion so I think the comparison between those two and the VP150 are valid.

I’m just happy to see how many people are now agreeing that compared to the M80s the VP150 is out of it’s league.


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Re: VP180..wait to buy it if..
grunt #326556 10/25/10 06:06 PM
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I disagree with everyone, the VP150 is waaaaay better then the VP180. Of course, I don't own a VP180 yet, so basing my opinion on a hunch.


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SirQuack #326557 10/25/10 06:06 PM
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Personally, I think the VP100 is the best center speaker that's ever been made.


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