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#328608 - 11/16/10 12:29 PM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: Ken.C]
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Originally Posted By: kcarlile
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Ken why did you delete your post . . . ? wink
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#328616 - 11/16/10 01:03 PM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: grunt]
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Originally Posted By: grunt
Originally Posted By: kcarlile
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Ken why did you delete your post . . . ? wink

I bet it was just a bluff so it looked like it was a deep and incendiary comment! wink wink he he he
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#328619 - 11/16/10 01:15 PM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: EFalardeau]
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Originally Posted By: EFalardeau
Originally Posted By: grunt
Originally Posted By: kcarlile
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Ken why did you delete your post . . . ? wink

I bet it was just a bluff so it looked like it was a deep and incendiary comment! wink wink he he he


It was an apropos comment, methinks. wink
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#328620 - 11/16/10 01:41 PM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: grunt]
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Yeah, giving the last posts by a couple of newbies, I'm going to re-instate it:

Way to stir the pot, JBall and Billy P.
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#328624 - 11/16/10 01:56 PM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: BlueJays1]
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Registered: 11/01/10
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Hello, I am a new Axiom Audio customer expecting the arrival of two M80s, two QS8s, a VP180, and an EP500 on Thursday of this week. While I am eager to hear how it all sounds, I admit the subject of the Audioholics subwoofer shootout is causing me a degree of buyers remorse already.

Whatever the truth may be, from my vantage point as a new/prospective customer, Axiom, by their unwillingness to participate in the subwoofer shootout, is saying to me: "We are aftraid of the competition; we believe our subwoofer can't stand up to the other manufacturers' products." Whether that's right or not, it is how it appears to me. So, my yet-to-be-delivered EP500 is already stained in my mind as a possibly inferior product.

The real bummer in all this, as others have noted, I (Axiom customer) would have never heard of Axiom Audio, nor would have ever ordered from Axiom if it weren't for all the incredible rave reviews that Audioholics have give Axiom products over the years.

When I, a mere consumer/non-audio expert start googling up speaker reviews, I am always led to the Audioholics site, and their reviews subsequently led me to Axiom Audio. But, it now appears that Axiom isn't happy with that arrangement by pulling advertisements from the site. I think that is sad. It certainly gives me pause for thought even before I pull those new speakers out of their boxes. I'm hoping they'll be awesome, but the Audioholics thing has served to diminish my expectations. Please be clear that I am not writing to complain, just to expressing the impact that the subwoofer shootout controversy is having on me; a new customer.

[edit]Any statements you'd like to make regarding how great the M80s, VP180, QS8s, and especially the EP500 speakers are by way of encouragement regarding my substantial purchase decision, I would be quite appreciative![/edit]

David


Edited by darbo (11/16/10 02:11 PM)

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#328627 - 11/16/10 02:19 PM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: darbo]
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I've had the EP350 for several months and am pleased with it. The EP500 has the same size box, but with a bigger amplifier. I'm anticipating that your concerns will melt away after you are setup and have everything adjusted for your room, and listening preferences.

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#328631 - 11/16/10 02:29 PM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: CatBrat]
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darbo, I have the same setup you do minus the VP180, which wasn't out when I got my VP150 about 4 years ago. Axiom speakers are indeed the real deal. They will faithfully reproduce whatever you throw at them, so feed them well.

The EP500 rocks my small-to-middle sized HT (~1700 cubic feet). I can only turn it up about 20 or 30 % of max power before it feels like I'm riding in somebody's thumping low rider.

Relax and enjoy.
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#328633 - 11/16/10 02:32 PM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: CatBrat]
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Registered: 11/01/10
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Loc: Lee's Summit, MO
Originally Posted By: CatBrat
I've had the EP350 for several months and am pleased with it. The EP500 has the same size box, but with a bigger amplifier. I'm anticipating that your concerns will melt away after you are setup and have everything adjusted for your room, and listening preferences.
Thanks! That's the stuff I'm fishing for. BTW,I'm from Lee's Summit, MO, so we're practically neighbors.


Edited by darbo (11/16/10 02:33 PM)

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#328641 - 11/16/10 02:41 PM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: darbo]
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I always put my subwoofers atop 90' poles. I just wait for the wind to die down. I wouldn't think of comparing subs using any other method, or methodology. I'm sure many of you feel the same way. I think it is a testimonial to Alan Lofft's reasonable approach to this dispute that he did not insist on the more challenging 180' pole test.

Watch out for subwoofers falling out of the sky. Believe me, they will leave a mark.
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#328645 - 11/16/10 02:45 PM Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout [Re: darbo]
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Registered: 08/05/09
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Loc: Milky Way Galaxy
Originally Posted By: darbo
Originally Posted By: CatBrat
I've had the EP350 for several months and am pleased with it. The EP500 has the same size box, but with a bigger amplifier. I'm anticipating that your concerns will melt away after you are setup and have everything adjusted for your room, and listening preferences.
Thanks! That's the stuff I'm fishing for. BTW,I'm from Lee's Summit, MO, so we're practically neighbors.


That's great. I don't know anyone else in my area with Axioms. Perhaps we could get together sometime. I am sending you a PM with contact information, if you'd like to e-mail or talk. Good luck with your system.

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