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There is a green push on the S series. No one I know of has ever mentioned anything wrong with the color on mine. I would see if they have it running in "movie" mode or not. If not set it there as this is the recommended setting for the S1 and I would suspect the same of the S2.

If you want accurate color, I'd stay away from the S1 and the S2. The S1 definitely had a green tint to it that couldn't be adjusted out.

I don't know if the green tint is an "across the board" characteristic of that Panasonic model or is it just the particular monitor coming out of that store and factory? That is why often to correct any of these issues, an ISF calibration done by an authorized calibrator is money well spent and can "usually" fix it.

Just as a possible recommendation and option, if wants to spend additional money to make a significant leap in your monitor's picture quality and accuracy, there are excellent options out there now that didn't exist until recently(ie. Video EQ Pro, DVDO Iscan Duo and the more elaborate and expensive Lumagen products) that now have complete multi-point(11-21) gray scale and color management systems built-in that once completed, will give an accuracy even considerably superior to what an experienced calibrator can do on their own who only has access to the monitors internal color controls(purchasers usually can't get access to these).

Along with one of the above options, get a meter and some calibration software like "Chromapure" and you will wonder what you did without it.

If I wanted to spend all of this additional money, I'd also go for a more expensive display to begin with. Maybe when I go to a front projector.

Theoretically, you should be right, however, the trouble is you could buy the most expensive model from any manufacturer and still possibly face the same color issues, it might not really matter. All one has to do is read the reviews of various television monitors, regardless of price, and these "out of the box" color(usually gray scale)problems are still fairly common. I have looked at multiple top-of-the-line sets in stores beside each other where one had a red color push the one beside it green and the third emphasizing blue. Even today, it seems the luck of the draw what you will get when you get it home and turn it on. These usually aren't that noticeable but if you have nothing to compare it to then you won't ever know.

Its been like that for years. Here again, realistically, I will admit it depends how far your interest and pocketbook is willing to take you in order to achieve "video nirvana".

Color accuracy does seem to be an issue across the board, you're right. It's simply hard for me to justify the expense of deeper-than-menu-options calibration on a cheaper set, where it seems like too huge a chunk of the budget. If I'm going to go all out, I'm going to go all out, even if the extra features of the display have nothing to do with basic color balance. My original 60" SXRD cost $4000+tax, which is the most I've spent on any single A/V item, and I still never got it professionally calibrated or bought tools to do it myself. I suppose part of the problem is that I don't want to invest the extra money in something I'll probably want to replace a few years down the road, anyway. For someone who's buying their system for the next 10 years, it makes perfect sense, though.

Interesting point and considering the rapid pace of change in technology, I can't blame you for your thoughts. A couple of interesting points, though, about this topic that is starting to happen is that all the equipment I was touting have all done recent 3D firmware upgrades "gratis" so they are set for awhile.

Perhaps most are not aware yet but, a few companies, ironically Panasonic for one, has included in their top of the line sets, the ability to directly interface with certain software(Calman/Spectracal)for one, to do calibrations on their sets including basic set-ups right in the same software and make interactive adjustments. Some top-of the line FRONT projection units(eg.JVC) include directly built-in to the units, grayscale and color management systems, so all you would need is the software and a meter to do the calibrations and not require the hardware interface unit at all.

So I guess the bottom line is, up until now, despite what seems to be as a fringe or limited "enthusiast" type process which comes at significant extra cost, working in conjunction with some software companies who specialize in getting the most out of your new monitor, more and more mainstream companies are gradually including this stuff in their products, so it seems the thoughts of greater color and gray scale accuracy and how to get it is gradually becoming more "mainstream".

It will be interesting to see how it all unfolds.

To me this is evidence that flat panel TV's have become a mature technology (not much more they can with them)and the manufacturer's are now recognizing the consumer as being a little more tech savvy than they used to be.

I'm thinking of saving up the additional $1000 to buy the 65" model of LaserVue. Or $1400, since it's definitely one I'd get an extended warranty on, being the first generation of this technology and all. I'd certainly be more excited about this purchase than buying the S2.... Here's hoping the LaserVue stays at $2999, or better yet, drops in price as I save. It'll suck making my sister wait a bit longer for this TV, but I'll feel better about buying something I'm excited about, even if I was just calling this a placeholder until my eventual front projector purchase. It's still a big chunk of change.

I'm excited about someone buying a LaserVue, too. If that helps.