Re: New remote?
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Any problems with the Harmony ONE charging cradle? I know the old 880 cradles had a lot of problems.
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Any problems with the Harmony ONE charging cradle? I know the old 880 cradles had a lot of problems. None at all. I have an 880 and need to put a rubber band around it to keep it in contact with the cradle. The Harmony One does not have the same cradle design, and works just fine.
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Yep, the older models had charging cradles that sometimes died within a year and they had to be re-designed and eventually replaced. One thing that also took me a long time to realize with the original battery in my Harmony One is that with these rechargeable Lithium batteries you have to practically run them down to almost nothing before you recharge it again otherwise if you place the remote back in the charger every time you are not using it, it prematurely starts to lose its ability to hold the charge for any length of time. I was making the mistake of doing the above and it got to the point that within a year it wouldn't hold its charge for more than a few hours and I had to replace the battery before its time.
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BTW, just got an email direct from Logitech. Pick one item and get 50% off. Yup, gonna finally bite and get the Harmony One.
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One thing that also took me a long time to realize with the original battery in my Harmony One is that with these rechargeable Lithium batteries you have to practically run them down to almost nothing before you recharge it again otherwise if you place the remote back in the charger every time you are not using it, it prematurely starts to lose its ability to hold the charge for any length of time. I was making the mistake of doing the above and it got to the point that within a year it wouldn't hold its charge for more than a few hours and I had to replace the battery before its time. I hate to say it, but that is a myth carried over from Ni-Cd days. Lithium batteries are designed to NOT behave that way. No "memory" issues, no need to "drain and recharge" multiple times just to get things back to normal. In fact, if you you drain a lithium batter too far, you will actually destroy the battery. There are other issues probably with your remote such as it not registering that the battery is not 100%, or something, or the battery has been damaged, or just worn out. I only say this so that people don't try to start draining and then charging their lithium powered devices and in turn end up actually reducing the life of their battery or destroying it by over-draining it.
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There is a good battery guide over at ABI and practices to maximize lithium based rechargeables. http://anythingbutipod.com/2010/01/mp3-player-battery-guide/
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I've been using Lithium batteries for my R/C plane, helicopter, and cars for a few years now. Each one of them (the batteries, and the charger for that matter) talks about how different the lithium batteries are from previous ni-cad type batteries. Heck, I have even had to retro fit my "toys" (as my wife put them) with lithium meters that show not only a charge level light, but also make an audible alarm when the juice is getting down to a dangerously low level.... Not empty, but just low. In older nickel based batteries, you just run them until they are dead. With lithium, you run them down to a certain point, and beyond that point you WILL permanently damage their ability to charge, and actually can "puff" the battery, which makes it risky for catching fire.
Anyway, draining too far is VERY bad.
Also, it explicitly states NOT to do the "drain and charge" business as it is no needed.
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