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#355588 - 09/27/11 02:35 AM m22v3 fronts/m3v3 rears?
ajacks7553 Offline
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Registered: 11/21/10
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Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Hi everyone,

Just looking for some second and third opinions from the experts. I currently own a pair of m3v3’s and absolutely love them. I am however notorious for upgradeitis and am looking to create a full 5.1 system.

I use my system 70/30 for music/movies and don’t expect this to change.

At the moment, the plan is to buy a pair of m22v3’s, use the m3’s as rears and buy an svs pb12-nsd or sb12-nsd for the sub. I guess my question is whether anyone has used the m3’s as rears before and whether you would recommend mating them with the M22’s as fronts?

My plan B would be to dish the M3’s to my brother and buy a pair of QS4 or QS8’s instead. I live in Australia so I don’t really have any way of trialling the QS series as rears. Obviously, the QS speakers are made specifically as surrounds, but will my m3’s live up to the job?

Thanks for your thoughts in advance!

Adam

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#355589 - 09/27/11 03:14 AM Re: m22v3 fronts/m3v3 rears? [Re: ajacks7553]
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M3s would be better than nothing, for sure. You can always try them as surrounds and see if you find them satisfactory. I haven't used bookshelf speakers as surrounds for several years, but I remember when I first got the QS8s and being really impressed with how much more the sound wrapped around me. I vote for QS8s as surrounds if money's not too much of an issue, but like I said, you could certainly try the M3s first.

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#355591 - 09/27/11 04:15 AM Re: m22v3 fronts/m3v3 rears? [Re: CV]
ajacks7553 Offline
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Thanks for your feedback CV - it's good to know that the sound is noticeably more enveloping using the QS8's than bookshelves. I had a feeling this would be the case.

In terms of money at the moment - I'm more or less limited to the sub and 1 pair of speakers.

A third possibility would be to keep the m3's as fronts and purchase a pair of QS8's and the sub. Does anybody have a feel for whether the m3/qs8/svs combo is a better choice than an m22/m3/svs combo? Especially considering I mostly listen to music.

I do have my heart set on the flatter response from the m22's coupled with a good sub because I've heard fantastic things about this set-up.

Cheers

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#355592 - 09/27/11 04:20 AM Re: m22v3 fronts/m3v3 rears? [Re: ajacks7553]
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I'd probably go for the M22s with M3s as surrounds first, then move to QS surrounds down the road. I enjoy the M3s I have, but I do think I'd prefer the M22s, especially when you have a sub to fill in the bottom end. Granted, I only have experience with a single M22 which I'm using as my center channel.

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#355656 - 09/27/11 10:07 PM Re: m22v3 fronts/m3v3 rears? [Re: ajacks7553]
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Adam, of course I'd like to suggest plan B, but with buying both the M22s, sub and QSs at this time. Since your budget won't permit that, certainly get the M22s and most likely the sub at this time and temporarily leave your brother Axiomless.

In using the M3s as side surrounds I'd suggest that you place them directly to the side of the listening position rather than farther back, but that you point them toward the back wall, to give a higher proportion of reflected sound. This is generally more suitable for surround sound in movies and surround ambience in 2-channel music(using a mode such as DPLII).
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#355662 - 09/28/11 12:26 AM Re: m22v3 fronts/m3v3 rears? [Re: JohnK]
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With 70% music I would definitely go with the M22s. I use M3v2s for casual listening when in that part of the house and for music while working out, etc. I love them for that. Sound great and no sub required at all. They are definitely my "fun" speakers, which I won't be offloading anytime soon.

For "critical" listening, however, the M22v2s mated with a 10" sub is a considerable step up. They really are a more precise sounding speaker, without being sterile like I find the M2v2s to be (precise, yet somehow boring, lifeless). Money spent in this direction would likely net higher immediate benefits than the fantastic QS8s, which you will definitely upgrade to eventually.
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#355818 - 09/29/11 09:41 PM Re: m22v3 fronts/m3v3 rears? [Re: doormat]
ajacks7553 Offline
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Thanks for your feedback guys, appreciate your thoughts. You've pretty much confirmed my own thoughts and made my decision a lot easier.

JohnK, when I get my new speakers, I'll definitely experiment with the M3's firing at the back wall. Hadn't thought of that before to be honest.

I'm going to buy a pair of M22's and use the M3's as surrounds for now. Mate them up with an svs sub and the Whatmough P2 centre channel I have and I should have a pretty awesome set-up!

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#356144 - 10/05/11 02:35 AM Re: m22v3 fronts/m3v3 rears? [Re: ajacks7553]
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Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Done and dusted. Thanks for the help everyone

Pulled the trigger on a new pair of M22v3's and the SVS SB12-NSD. Looking forward to getting it all hooked up and will be putting my dvd audio version of yoshimi battles the pink robots first up!


Edited by ajacks7553 (10/05/11 02:35 AM)

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#356150 - 10/05/11 09:00 AM Re: m22v3 fronts/m3v3 rears? [Re: ajacks7553]
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#356216 - 10/05/11 10:18 PM Re: m22v3 fronts/m3v3 rears? [Re: ajacks7553]
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Originally Posted By: ajacks7553
Done and dusted. Thanks for the help everyone

Pulled the trigger on a new pair of M22v3's and the SVS SB12-NSD. Looking forward to getting it all hooked up and will be putting my dvd audio version of yoshimi battles the pink robots first up!


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