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#389695 - 02/12/13 09:33 PM Bryston
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So I decided to check out Brystons website last nite eek I was looking at the SP3, that is until I found out the price a mere 7300.00 ouch and no room correction. Then I came across the the Model T which appears similar to the LFR's , which led me to the Model T mini. The Bryston name really elevates the prices of a Axiom made speaker.Nice looking speaker though, would love to hear one. Too bad axiom doesn't go this route.


$2500 for a 3 way are you kiddin me. I wouldn't pay that for a real 3 Way wink grin
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#389697 - 02/12/13 09:40 PM Re: Bryston [Re: Socketman]
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I don't understand in what way it's "too bad Axiom doesn't go this route"

You want them to make more expensive speakers?

If you're talking about a small 3 way, Ian has tested all manner of driver configurations over the years, and I trust that if he could produce something "better" than an M22 in a similar form factor, he would.
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#389698 - 02/12/13 09:49 PM Re: Bryston [Re: Socketman]
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Good sound can come from many configurations and box designs. The Bryston just looks classier, as one would expect for an upscale brand. And honestly I don't like the white drivers, there I said it grin They have to look as good as they sound.
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#389699 - 02/12/13 11:43 PM Re: Bryston [Re: Socketman]
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I don't think Axiom make the sexiest speaker in the world but the one in the picture above is no better.
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#389728 - 02/14/13 08:45 AM Re: Bryston [Re: Socketman]
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Originally Posted By: Socketman
So I decided to check out Brystons website last nite eek I was looking at the SP3, that is until I found out the price a mere 7300.00 ouch and no room correction. Then I came across the the Model T which appears similar to the LFR's , which led me to the Model T mini. The Bryston name really elevates the prices of a Axiom made speaker.Nice looking speaker though, would love to hear one. Too bad axiom doesn't go this route.


$2500 for a 3 way are you kiddin me. I wouldn't pay that for a real 3 Way wink grin



According to Bryston they are not the same midrange and bass drive units that are in Axiom models - improved driver material (less cone resonances than aluminum) and robust motor structures. The bass drivers are 8". Not to mention it has a different cabinet and would have a different crossover. All in all it is a different speaker.

Nice looking speaker too.
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#389739 - 02/14/13 12:11 PM Re: Bryston [Re: Socketman]
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they have axiom make custom drivers for the speakers. The drivers in the Model T's are not off the shelf axiom drivers... there is a model T thread on the audiocircle forum, and James goes into a little detail on what changes were made to the drivers... the Bryston cabinets are of a more complicated design as well, so manufacturing costs will be slightly higher... The Bryston fit and finish will likely be superior to Axiom's. This comes at a significant cost....


Keep in mind Axioms philosophy when comparing their product to others, even Bryston.. Axiom is a value product.. through and through.

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#389749 - 02/14/13 03:44 PM Re: Bryston [Re: dakkon]
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Originally Posted By: dakkon
they have axiom make custom drivers for the speakers. The drivers in the Model T's are not off the shelf axiom drivers... there is a model T thread on the audiocircle forum, and James goes into a little detail on what changes were made to the drivers... the Bryston cabinets are of a more complicated design as well, so manufacturing costs will be slightly higher... The Bryston fit and finish will likely be superior to Axiom's. This comes at a significant cost....


Keep in mind Axioms philosophy when comparing their product to others, even Bryston.. Axiom is a value product.. through and through.




Yup , all that is true . I have followed along at audio circle and I know this was a special project that James has done with axiom. I think axiom could have done a upscale line easily. They did make the LFR's which aren't exactly inexpensive. There seems to be plenty of people here that jump on the upgrade wagon when a new and improved model is released (myself included). As for the price, I suppose R&D has to be figured in as well. Still think it is a classy looking speaker, just out of my reach. grin
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#389753 - 02/14/13 07:22 PM Re: Bryston [Re: Socketman]
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With all respect to Bryston I think most of the 'differences' amount to marketing and product differentiation. There aren't really off the shelf Axiom drivers - Ian makes them as he likes them!

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#389754 - 02/14/13 08:35 PM Re: Bryston [Re: Socketman]
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There is a lot more to the Model T's as far as the size of the cabinet ect. they are much larger speakers..


However, i think the LFR's are a better value.. Which is why i bought them....

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#389759 - 02/14/13 10:06 PM Re: Bryston [Re: Socketman]
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Looking at the Model T ,they really aren't like the LFR's they don't have the extra drivers on the back. The have internal and external passive crossover as well as a multi amp active crossover. Your right they are huge and must be damn heavy with a 1.5 inch thick front baffle. Sometimes I really hate living in the sticks. LOL . I would love to be able to audition some of these speakers as well as some other brands for comparison. C'mon lottery .
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