Get Free, Friendly, Expert Advice
Call 1-866-244-8796 or email

Designed and Manufactured in Canada Since 1980


AxiomAudio Blog

Sneak Peek into Axiom’s Current Research and Development

Axiom’s Newest Speaker: The In-Ceiling M3

Outdoor Speaker Placement

Wall'O'Fame
Experimental Atmos
Greetings fellow Axiom owners...
Who's Online
3 registered (Ajax, CV, onn), 49 Guests and 4 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Financing
Forum Stats
13317 Members
11 Forums
22877 Topics
404367 Posts

Max Online: 378 @ 02/24/13 04:33 PM
Top Posters
Ken.C 17775
pmbuko 16274
SirQuack 13333
CV 11202
MarkSJohnson 10886
Meanwhile On Facebook

So much going on in this month's newsletter - new product announcements, a new v...

Love this comment from Doug T! "The M22 bookshelf speakers sound so clean and a...

󾓶 Andrew has spoken! Big update on the AxiomPlay Wireless Platform on the Axiom...

A New Look For Our Amps and Pre-amps? Adding yet another level of customization...

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#396377 - 08/24/13 09:27 PM VP160 or VP180 for my M80
TroyD Offline
local

Registered: 02/17/04
Posts: 295
SO just wonderingif the VP160 is a good centre for the M80. room is 12x19x7 and I am sitting about 11 ft from the front.

I see Jakewash has a vp160 with his M80


Edited by troyd (08/24/13 09:27 PM)
_________________________
HK 3490
M80 HG Cherry
2x Energy ESW10 Subs

Top
#396380 - 08/25/13 12:29 AM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
JohnK Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 05/11/02
Posts: 10388
Sure it is Troy, and the vertical T/M configuration helps provide a wide horizontal dispersion. Note that the Axiom product page for the VP160 states that the VP160 "...is the best center channel speaker for our award-winning M60 floor standing speakers as well as any other speakers in our tower lineup".
_________________________
-----------------------------------

Enjoy the music, not the equipment.



Top
#396415 - 08/25/13 09:14 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
TroyD Offline
local

Registered: 02/17/04
Posts: 295
Yeh, I am sure it is.
yes, I see that one the VP160 page but, if I remember correctly the VP160 came out before the 180 and they don't update there pages a lot,

my theatre room is basically me centred and 11ft away I will have 4.75ft behind me the the rear wall.
NO one else matters because after my daughter moves on to University there is no one wink

Just wasn't sure if I should go woth the 180 or 160
_________________________
HK 3490
M80 HG Cherry
2x Energy ESW10 Subs

Top
#396417 - 08/25/13 09:33 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
SirQuack Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 01/29/04
Posts: 13333
Loc: Iowa
I would look at your front wall situation (width, height, ex.) and compare to the dimensions of each center. Go with what meets your budget and looks pleasing in the room. I think either are great options, since you already have m80's, maybe that will determine what works. I suppose the 180 is more of a match to 80s, but that is just a hunch. I love my 180, but never heard a 160. My front wall is 15ft wide if that helps. I am using Axiom's 180 stand below my screen.
_________________________
M80s-VP180-QS8s-EP600-2xEP350 Denon3808 Outlaw7700
M22-OWM22-VP100-Denon2805
Audio Nirvana

Top
#396420 - 08/25/13 10:22 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
JohnK Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 05/11/02
Posts: 10388
No, the VP160 is the later model.
_________________________
-----------------------------------

Enjoy the music, not the equipment.



Top
#396453 - 08/26/13 03:50 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
TroyD Offline
local

Registered: 02/17/04
Posts: 295
SirQ
My front wall is 11.75w x 7.75h.
I will have a 64" Plasma TV. I sit 10-11ft away from the front, Anything bigger is just too big, I think.

I am just wondering, because the Receiver I have has the M80 set to Small 60hz crossover.
_________________________
HK 3490
M80 HG Cherry
2x Energy ESW10 Subs

Top
#396667 - 08/30/13 10:24 AM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
cohesion Offline
local

Registered: 03/27/12
Posts: 211
Loc: Maple, Ontario, Canada
With your receiver set to small you likely don't benefit from the additional LF available on the m80/vp180. Unless you plan to experiment with changing it just get the vp160.

Top
#396668 - 08/30/13 10:53 AM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
TroyD Offline
local

Registered: 02/17/04
Posts: 295
that's what I was thinking also cohesion.

pretty well pointless to go the extra for the VP180 when I am not going to be able to utilize the extra LF.

Kinda thinking I may just leave the M80's upstairs and rethink this home theatre situation. A nice Martin Logan decent would make a perfect 2.1 music only system

M60's, VP160, and dual subs. But, now I am back to thinking if I am not going to be using information below 80hz or 60hz with my mains I may as well go back to a great quality bookshelf system and dual subs.
_________________________
HK 3490
M80 HG Cherry
2x Energy ESW10 Subs

Top
#396672 - 08/30/13 12:34 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
exlabdriver Offline
connoisseur

Registered: 09/07/11
Posts: 1014
M22s + 2 Velo 10" subs as stands work perfectly for me in my HT.

More capable subs would even be better but I feel no need for that in my medium sized room...

TAM

Top
#396686 - 08/30/13 03:36 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: exlabdriver]
Mad_Chesser Offline
veteran

Registered: 01/11/13
Posts: 195
Loc: B.C., Canada
If you are cranking up the system to reference levels(with m80s and qs8s), is it worth it to go for the vp180 based on the wattage alone? I see it says the vp160 is 200 watts and is 6 or 8 ohm.

I guess my line of thinking is that if my mains are 400 watt and my rears are 400 watt, shouldnt my center...ideally...be too?

I understand how sensitive the speakers are. I'm just hypotheticall asking, in a perfect world, isnt the vp180 a better match?
_________________________
2 Axiom M80s v3
1 Axiom VP160 v3
2 Paradigm ADP-150
Pioneer SC-61
Rotel RMB-1095
51" Samsung Plasma

Top
#396691 - 08/30/13 04:07 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
tomtuttle Offline
axiomite

Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 8288
Loc: Tacoma
Those wattage ratings on speakers really don't matter much, IMO. If you're actually pushing those kinds of peaks, you'll damage your hearing anyway. And any differences in sensitivity will be mitigated by system setup.
_________________________
bibere usque ad hilaritatem

Top
#396696 - 08/30/13 06:18 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: tomtuttle]
Mad_Chesser Offline
veteran

Registered: 01/11/13
Posts: 195
Loc: B.C., Canada
Well I do enjoy ear damage levels. So with that in mind...still no reason to choose vp180 over the 160?

What strengths or attributes does the vp180 have that the 160 doesnt?

I like that I can accomodate the vp160 easier and I like the idea of better off axis listening. But I want to know it can keep up to the axiom big boys at ear bleeding levels
_________________________
2 Axiom M80s v3
1 Axiom VP160 v3
2 Paradigm ADP-150
Pioneer SC-61
Rotel RMB-1095
51" Samsung Plasma

Top
#396697 - 08/30/13 06:35 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
MarkSJohnson Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 09/27/04
Posts: 10886
Loc: Central NH
The VP160 is an extremely capable speaker and, believe me, it's pretty damn big already.
_________________________
::::::: No disrespect to Axiom, but my favorite woofer is my yellow lab :::::::

Top
#396699 - 08/30/13 06:43 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
TroyD Offline
local

Registered: 02/17/04
Posts: 295
Nope just a comfortable level. Same as in a movie theatre.

Thinking more so the M22 and VP150 or 160 and QS8's
_________________________
HK 3490
M80 HG Cherry
2x Energy ESW10 Subs

Top
#396702 - 08/30/13 07:23 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
SirQuack Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 01/29/04
Posts: 13333
Loc: Iowa
What did you say Tom, I can't hear you?
_________________________
M80s-VP180-QS8s-EP600-2xEP350 Denon3808 Outlaw7700
M22-OWM22-VP100-Denon2805
Audio Nirvana

Top
#396721 - 08/31/13 11:08 AM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
michael_d Offline
connoisseur

Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 3904
Loc: Up yonder
I have M60's, a VP160 and two EP500's in my HT. I have no complaints and find the combination very adequate. I am limited in area, so these speakers were the most obvious choice to me. I was using M80's for the R/L. The M60's have a slightly warmer high end than the M80's. I didn't notice a loss in the lower frequency response area. I suspect the differences I am hearing is due to the M80's being a Ti version and the M60's being V3's.
_________________________


Top
#396724 - 08/31/13 12:00 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: michael_d]
chesseroo Offline
connoisseur

Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 4829
Loc: western canada
Originally Posted By: michael_d
The M60's have a slightly warmer high end than the M80's. I didn't notice a loss in the lower frequency response area. I suspect the differences I am hearing is due to the M80's being a Ti version and the M60's being V3's.

If i get back to Ontario around Dwight, i would certainly love to hear this comparison.
I did get a chance to hear the new M80 v3, but not side by side.

We still run the resistor on our older M60Ti.
_________________________
"Those who preach the myths of audio are ignorant of truth."

Top
#396732 - 08/31/13 02:38 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
michael_d Offline
connoisseur

Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 3904
Loc: Up yonder
It's probably a shorter drive to my place.... just saying. smile
_________________________


Top
#396737 - 08/31/13 06:03 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
a401classic Offline
connoisseur

Registered: 11/29/06
Posts: 1183
Loc: Alpharetta, GA
Originally Posted By: troyd
Nope just a comfortable level. Same as in a movie theatre.


That can be quite loud, actually. My wife wanted to crawl under the seats from embarrassment, but I brought my sound meter to a theater in Louisiana and peak levels were 110+ dB and the quietest moments (where there was still sound) was in the mid-80's, iirc. If it was a work place, OSHA would have issued a citation. (Yes, I know it's a workplace for the employees there, but they don't sit through the movie typically)
_________________________
Scott

My HT

Top
#396743 - 08/31/13 07:35 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
cohesion Offline
local

Registered: 03/27/12
Posts: 211
Loc: Maple, Ontario, Canada
I have a VP180 with LFRs up front and it is excellent. In fact I hope there will be an M100-equivalent centre version announced someday to better match the LFRs! But I run all my front speakers - including the VP180 - full range.

Top
#397273 - 09/23/13 09:24 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
TroyD Offline
local

Registered: 02/17/04
Posts: 295
yes, I would love to go full range ,but then I get no LFE to the subs ;(
_________________________
HK 3490
M80 HG Cherry
2x Energy ESW10 Subs

Top
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >



Moderator:  alan, Amie, Andrew, axiomadmin, Brent, Debbie, Ian, Jc 

Home  |  Corporate Info  |  Products  |  Message Board  |  FAQs  |  Warranty  |  Site Map  |  Privacy Statement   |  Contact Us

©2014 Colquhoun Audio Laboratories Limited
All Rights Reserved.