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#396691 - 08/30/13 04:07 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
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Registered: 06/20/03
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Those wattage ratings on speakers really don't matter much, IMO. If you're actually pushing those kinds of peaks, you'll damage your hearing anyway. And any differences in sensitivity will be mitigated by system setup.
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#396696 - 08/30/13 06:18 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: tomtuttle]
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Well I do enjoy ear damage levels. So with that in mind...still no reason to choose vp180 over the 160?

What strengths or attributes does the vp180 have that the 160 doesnt?

I like that I can accomodate the vp160 easier and I like the idea of better off axis listening. But I want to know it can keep up to the axiom big boys at ear bleeding levels
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#396697 - 08/30/13 06:35 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
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The VP160 is an extremely capable speaker and, believe me, it's pretty damn big already.
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#396699 - 08/30/13 06:43 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
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Nope just a comfortable level. Same as in a movie theatre.

Thinking more so the M22 and VP150 or 160 and QS8's
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#396702 - 08/30/13 07:23 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
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What did you say Tom, I can't hear you?
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#396721 - 08/31/13 11:08 AM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
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I have M60's, a VP160 and two EP500's in my HT. I have no complaints and find the combination very adequate. I am limited in area, so these speakers were the most obvious choice to me. I was using M80's for the R/L. The M60's have a slightly warmer high end than the M80's. I didn't notice a loss in the lower frequency response area. I suspect the differences I am hearing is due to the M80's being a Ti version and the M60's being V3's.
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#396724 - 08/31/13 12:00 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: michael_d]
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Originally Posted By: michael_d
The M60's have a slightly warmer high end than the M80's. I didn't notice a loss in the lower frequency response area. I suspect the differences I am hearing is due to the M80's being a Ti version and the M60's being V3's.

If i get back to Ontario around Dwight, i would certainly love to hear this comparison.
I did get a chance to hear the new M80 v3, but not side by side.

We still run the resistor on our older M60Ti.
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#396732 - 08/31/13 02:38 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
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It's probably a shorter drive to my place.... just saying. smile
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#396737 - 08/31/13 06:03 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
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Originally Posted By: troyd
Nope just a comfortable level. Same as in a movie theatre.


That can be quite loud, actually. My wife wanted to crawl under the seats from embarrassment, but I brought my sound meter to a theater in Louisiana and peak levels were 110+ dB and the quietest moments (where there was still sound) was in the mid-80's, iirc. If it was a work place, OSHA would have issued a citation. (Yes, I know it's a workplace for the employees there, but they don't sit through the movie typically)
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#396743 - 08/31/13 07:35 PM Re: VP160 or VP180 for my M80 [Re: TroyD]
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Registered: 03/27/12
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Loc: Maple, Ontario, Canada
I have a VP180 with LFRs up front and it is excellent. In fact I hope there will be an M100-equivalent centre version announced someday to better match the LFRs! But I run all my front speakers - including the VP180 - full range.

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