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#398882 - 11/25/13 08:00 PM 5 x M80
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To those who have had M80's all around, would you do it again?

I can't wait to try out 5.0.
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#398884 - 11/25/13 09:15 PM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: brwsaw]
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No.. but it was one heck of an experience, though made absolutely no acoustic sense, I had 3 pairs (6) m80's and I thought that it would be cool to feel like this vid..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72Wgnd7139k

I later went on to sell a pair to a user here called Ravi, sold another pair to a friend and have just sold the last pair a couple of months ago on kijiji to upgrade to the new m100's
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#398885 - 11/25/13 10:03 PM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: brwsaw]
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Can you elaborate on not making "acoustic sense".
Also, how well did the M80 hold up when used as L/C/R in your room?
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#398886 - 11/25/13 10:06 PM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: JBG]
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Originally Posted By: Johnny_Be_Good
No.. but it was one heck of an experience, though made absolutely no acoustic sense, I had 3 pairs (6) m80's and I thought that it would be cool to feel like this vid..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72Wgnd7139k

I later went on to sell a pair to a user here called Ravi, sold another pair to a friend and have just sold the last pair a couple of months ago on kijiji to upgrade to the new m100's


I remember cranking up the volume on the denon 4802 (at a time where denons had good amps) listening to the Topgun movie in stereo 6.. intro scene.. and sorta felt like this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvfHNhkSOG0
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#398887 - 11/25/13 10:35 PM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: brwsaw]
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Originally Posted By: brwsaw
Can you elaborate on not making "acoustic sense".
Also, how well did the M80 hold up when used as L/C/R in your room?


I had them L/R, sides, and rear .. using them mostly in 6 channel stereo. never tried using a m80 as a center but In 7.1 application the sound stage was just horrible.. and in 6 channel stereo it was just overwhelming to get any kind of quality sound in the size room I had them in, if you want a really good sound stage and quality sound, it would be wise to use the right kind of speaker setup for the application... I did a lot of speaker experimentation , also using a bunch of vp150 also for surrounds (as per Joe vassello's advice)but found at the end the best sound achieved was with the traditional speaker application setup. I guess best advice on this is m80 are best used as mains.

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#398888 - 11/25/13 10:50 PM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: JBG]
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I confirmed my order today. Guess I'll know in a month or so.
I do like my M80s sound stage, phantom center sounds better than my actual center.
I run them as large for music and am considering running them with my AVR set to large with my new units.
I do find male voices are sumwhat artificially deep with the phantom center and subs turned off but this could be related to their placement.
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#398889 - 11/25/13 11:08 PM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: brwsaw]
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Originally Posted By: brwsaw
I confirmed my order today. Guess I'll know in a month or so.
I do like my M80s sound stage, phantom center sounds better than my actual center.
I run them as large for music and am considering running them with my AVR set to large with my new units.
I do find male voices are sumwhat artificially deep with the phantom center and subs turned off but this could be related to their placement.


different situations such as room size avr's or amps and m80 version all have an impact on results, my m80's were the first versions, if you don't like the results, you have 30 days to return them... then you might want to try a vp180 for the center channel...

please inform me of your results

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#398899 - 11/26/13 05:26 PM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: brwsaw]
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I use 3 m80's for the front sound stage and love it. I put the center in my theater behind a AT screen. Couldn't say enough positive about it.

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#398900 - 11/26/13 05:54 PM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: bwallen77]
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I'm glad to hear it.
No pun intended.
I'm very exited to get them home and set up.
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#398901 - 11/26/13 06:16 PM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: brwsaw]
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I believe the only one I know is Dennis out in CA, he hasn't been on the boards in a long time. Peter and Ken were able to here is setup driven by Parasound amps. M80' all the way around, and I believe multiple subs.
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#398902 - 11/26/13 06:26 PM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: brwsaw]
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I figured its worth trying while I have them all in one location.
The front channels will all be raised, I'm thinking I'll match all the heights and the match the spacing between the the rears to the spacing of the L&R.
I have to find an inexpensive way to do this, it may only be temporary.
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#398905 - 11/26/13 08:12 PM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: brwsaw]
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Dennis' username was Tharkun, I believe.

Doesn't Mel (onn) also have a whole bunch of M80's? Not sure about the center.
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#398918 - 11/27/13 07:10 AM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: tomtuttle]
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Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
Dennis' username was Tharkun, I believe.

Doesn't Mel (onn) also have a whole bunch of M80's? Not sure about the center.


I used to have only 4 M80's
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#398919 - 11/27/13 10:34 AM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: onn]
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Nice pictures...
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#398924 - 11/27/13 02:29 PM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: brwsaw]
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Yep Tharkun and Mickey Mouse avatar!
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#398946 - 11/29/13 02:19 PM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: brwsaw]
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I am using M80's for surround speakers in my great room. The fronts are Opus 2.2's. I can't run a center channel in this room, as the TV is over the fireplace. When listening to music, I use the 5.1 channel stereo option the receiver has. The M80's as surround speakers work surprisingly well. More so than I thought they would. But, it should be noted that they are about 16' away from the main listening position. If they were less than about 10' away, I don't think they would work for surround speakers all that great. Sometimes you do not want to know exactly where the sound is coming from behind you.

So I guess what I'm suggestions, is to NOT use any sort of direct radiating speaker for the surround or rear surround, unless you have plenty of distance between the speaker and your listening position. If you do have the distance, go for it.
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#398948 - 11/29/13 03:10 PM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: brwsaw]
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I will have 11' or so to work with if I don't divide the room into two and or I don't move the front sound stage back.
It probably goes with out saying now, I really enjoy tweaking sound systems in pursuit of better realism.
Admittedly I don't always like myself but when it is better it was worth the headache.
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#398950 - 11/29/13 03:24 PM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: michael_d]
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Originally Posted By: michael_d
I am using M80's for surround speakers in my great room. The fronts are Opus 2.2's. I can't run a center channel in this room, as the TV is over the fireplace. When listening to music, I use the 5.1 channel stereo option the receiver has. The M80's as surround speakers work surprisingly well. More so than I thought they would. But, it should be noted that they are about 16' away from the main listening position. If they were less than about 10' away, I don't think they would work for surround speakers all that great. Sometimes you do not want to know exactly where the sound is coming from behind you.

So I guess what I'm suggestions, is to NOT use any sort of direct radiating speaker for the surround or rear surround, unless you have plenty of distance between the speaker and your listening position. If you do have the distance, go for it.


like I said in a post earlier; different situations such as room size avr's or amps and m80 version all have an impact on results

I agree with what you said, re; NOT use any sort of direct radiating speaker for the surround or rear surround, unless you have plenty of distance between the speaker and your listening position. If you do have the distance, go for it.

I have yielded the same results and conclusions
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#398951 - 11/29/13 05:02 PM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: brwsaw]
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It's all good. I've traded these two in.
I have QS8's & QS4's for my surrounds and a small pile of speakers in storage.
I'm on the fence about it, but I think I'm going to move the L/C/R and screen to the other end of the room (where there isn't a 5' doorway next to them).
I thought it would be neat to try while I have the room tore apart.
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#398976 - 12/01/13 12:17 AM Re: 5 x M80 [Re: brwsaw]
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I think I'm in trouble.
My M80's have never sounded so good.
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