Re: Introducing the M5 and QS10
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Good choice on both of those models!
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Re: Introducing the M5 and QS10
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Try finding any meaningful information on a tv manufacturer's website, like whether its hdmi 2.0a etc and AVR's are no better. You can find any decent specs like what is the line level output on the preouts. Its just plain lazy, there are plenty of people who want and understand these specs. True, however tv manu. and Axiom speakers ..... one is I can go to most any Best Buy or electronics store and for the most part get upto date information. Most part as most will go to the website anyways. But,they also have paper information etc. However, Axiom is 100% internet based and the only way to get up to date info ..... and for the " LOve" of Axiom is on the website. This is there main medium of advertisement and information, spec etc this should be the most updated. I know, you can pick up a phone and dial 1 - 800 but, how many get to the point, they look on the site and say of look at that it's got ports and click their gone , or old specs/pics. and I hate the look of those cheap $3 plastic inputs on $2000 speakers. Hell get qaulity looking ones and charge an extra $20 nobody will notice the price $2000 or $2020 . They will notice the outside first and see quality finish, quality speakers and a quality input. It takes just one piece that looks cheap for people to think, ok the whole thing is cheap.
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Re: Introducing the M5 and QS10
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$2,000 speakers? I think those same, cheap-looking speaker terminals are used on the $10,000 Bryston Model T.
Why spend money improving the aesthetics of a component that is infrequently handled let alone seen?
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I am curious about these input comments. Are we suggesting it would be better to have the binding posts mounted to a metal plate, have them sticking straight out, and change the colour to clear with a hint of red and black somewhere?
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My comment was to confirm I prefer the ones used previously (v2 and early v3) to the black and red ones used in my last purchase. I recognize it won't effect anything but the first time I saw them it did feel like a step backwards, a lesser quality product on an otherwise upgraded product.It is petty but it was noteworthy. FWIW I wish the posts on my receiver were as good as those on my speakers.
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I think you are referring to the move from clear plastic with a little ring showing the red and black to full out red and black plastic. We did this to make the positive and negative much easier to see as a lot of times this connection is getting made while hanging over the top or side of the speaker and with poor lighting back there. Having one speaker out of phase makes things sound ugly so anything to avoid that happening is a good thing.
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Yes brwsaw I agree. The current ones just look cheap, like we would find on Yamaha or Sony speakers. I like these in the link. https://m.aliexpress.com/item/437722779.htmlAs for some comments, no aesthetic's do not mean better sound etc, I just think once you take a nice M80HP or 60HG or the M100 your top line of product a better input terminal or even option goes a long way. Details, details. Little things. Some people would look at that and think well that looks real cheap, loose winding plastic nuts what else was cost cut on the inside. It's like putting a Porsche shell on a VW Beetle motor and frame. I think even if flush mounted for the HP and LFR series. Standard speaker line well standard input I like the way the back of the Image T3s are Even Energy Speakers have a better input http://www.energy-speakers.com/images/common/V-6-3-T/addl/V-6-3-T_18.jpg
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If this the case then I find taht looking over the top of the VP180, now the VP160 it is hard to see the input terminals becasue they are embedded. I have to lift the speaker up so I can see. That said red is on the left side looking at the speaker.
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I find this all very curious. Perhaps we need a poll. In my opinion; it is one thing to change something to make it look better, but to change it to make it look better at the expense of its function is another. Also, considering it is located on the rear of the speaker where it is generally not seen after the initial hook up means we changed something to make it look better, while we sacrificed its function, and no one sees it anyway. We would be sacrificing its function in four ways:
1. Harder to tell the positive from the negative.
2. The metal plate increases the chance of a shorting both during hook-up and after if there are stray stands.
3. Having the binding posts sticking straight out means banana plug connections stick way out.
4. The risk of damage during shipping goes up.
I am not disagreeing that it would look better with a metal plate and clear nuts, I think it would and that makes it important to consider. But reducing performance or functionality for aesthetics has not been the Axiom way and I am leery about changing that philosophy.
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I am going to weigh in here. The clear knobs with the red and black bands piss me off. I look back there, cant see which terminal is which. I have to go look for my flashlight which i cant find till i find my glass's. While looking for my glass's i find my coffee i put down while watering the plants, which is now cold. I have to go to the microwave warm up my coffee,by this time i forgot why i was out here to begin with or what i was looking for. I go back to my theater realize i need a flashlight so i can connect my speakers and the whole thing starts over. So just make the knobs red and black so i can see them.
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