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Re: Introducing the M5 and QS10
Ian #424832 04/08/17 08:15 PM
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The graphs are online....



Re: Introducing the M5 and QS10
spiroh #424833 04/08/17 08:52 PM
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We knew when the product page was first up that the M5HPs were going to need almost twice the power of M22s to reach the same SPL.

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Ian #424836 04/09/17 12:12 AM
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Initial impressions? Are they the new boss bookshelf?

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AAAA #424837 04/09/17 12:33 AM
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Can't you tell from the photos, the frequency response plot and the impedance curve? smile


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Re: Introducing the M5 and QS10
Ian #424865 04/09/17 04:22 PM
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Lol. Nope. Good for a stink check though. smile

The curves look textbook. The impedance curve suggests once your amp runs out of gas there will be screaming treble and no bass. Use a ballsy amp if you listen loud.

Re: Introducing the M5 and QS10
AAAA #424872 04/09/17 07:16 PM
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Hi Serenity_Now,

I couldn't agree more. Regardless of the impedance curve, once your amp runs out of gas you will get the distortion of amp clipping meaning it is time to turn it down or get a bigger amp with good dynamic headroom. After speakers with problems in their family of curves I would say this is the biggest reason for bad audio.


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Re: Introducing the M5 and QS10
Ian #424881 04/10/17 04:11 AM
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Listened to the M5HP quite a bit over the weekend with some music and a few movies. They definitely sound a bit better to my ears than the M22 they replaced. But with that said, the M22's still sound fantastic. They also seem like they could take more power than I'm feeding them easily without issue. One thing I noticed is if I turn my receiver up as loud as it will go with the M22's I start to hear some distortion and harshness that make me want to turn the volume down, for whatever reason I didn't hear the harshness from the M5HPs. I can't quite put my finger on what exactly is happening but my VP150 also sound better now with blending with the M5HP not sure why voices sound clearer in movies but it may just be in my head.


Are the replacement tops for the FMS stands to fit the M5's available? I couldn't find them listed on the website anywhere. The current base on my FMS stands are too small to fit so currently using some DR PRo monitor stands.

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I'm not experiencing the needing 2x power to reach the same sound volumes levels (in perceptions as least) as the M22 but maybe Im just not using amps in that high of a range or playing at volume levels where that would be the case in my normal usage of playing music and movies it seems just about as loud as the M22's except when maxing the volume out .... the M22's sound perceptively louder but I think it may be mostly the added distortion/harshness that I'm hearing with the M22's at max that I don't hear as much of with the M5HP's at max. I'll need to test it with a SPL meter to see if that's the case or not. Also, I don't have a particularly powerful amp/receiver.

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Ian #424886 04/10/17 04:50 PM
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I have never been able to max the volume with any of my Axiom speakers (M2s, M3s, & M22s). They all get stupidly loud in my rooms well before they get to max.

If you are getting distortion, you are probably driving your amps into clipping. That is not good for your speakers...

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Re: Introducing the M5 and QS10
flashtro #424887 04/10/17 06:51 PM
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I'm giving the m5hp's about 120 to 140watts per side from my receiver and my initial thought on this is it's not enough. With that type of power the M22's got super loud. I'm experiencing more sibilance or harshness at louder volumes with the m5hp and i think it's because the watts I am giving them isn't enough. I need more testing time. I did not have the time I wanted to this weekend.

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I'm not experiencing the needing 2x power to reach the same sound volumes levels (in perceptions as least) as the M22 but maybe Im just not using amps in that high of a range or playing at volume levels where that would be the case in my normal usage of playing music and movies it seems just about as loud as the M22's except when maxing the volume out .... the M22's sound perceptively louder but I think it may be mostly the added distortion/harshness that I'm hearing with the M22's at max that I don't hear as much of with the M5HP's at max. I'll need to test it with a SPL meter to see if that's the case or not. Also, I don't have a particularly powerful amp/receiver.

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