Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
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there is no specific position, which is why like subs around the place. I move around a lot; out in the kitchen, back into the living room to sip the bourbon from who knows where, out onto the deck, over into the private office, back to the living room.... I don't sit still. Then I just stand toward the back of the room and listen.... get a refill and start all over again
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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
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I wouldn't quite that god damn far. The amp is only doing 60 amps per channel.... my Thermal arc Tig welder does 180 amps, so I am not welding any cables here! Well I could do some thin sheet metal You're doing about 10 amps max and 12 ga is fine.
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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
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there is no specific position, which is why like subs around the place. I move around a lot; out in the kitchen, back into the living room to sip the bourbon from who knows where, out onto the deck, over into the private office, back to the living room.... I don't sit still. Then I just stand toward the back of the room and listen.... get a refill and start all over again Oh, you're a "roamer". Try sitting right in between them 15 feet away. Slide your sitting position forwards and backwards until you hear Nirvana. Don't do it if you want to continue roaming. The sweet spot is addictive.
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Yep, not 60 amps.... I only have a 20 amp main circuit and if I can turn 20 amps into 60 x 2 amps I need to be heating this place for free.
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Oh trust me, I do have a sweet spot, it's about 15 feet back and it's triangulated with the spacing, it works. But I like to roam. If anyone finds me in the sweet spot for an extended time frame, it indicates that I have lost my mind again.
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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
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So you take all possible paths until you lose your mind. Your wavefunction then collapses and you are localized at the sweet spot.
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BTW, if the music you like has notes below 20 Hz, the 500 may not be enough for you.
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"Flawed theory on small speakers paired with subs. Woofers, mids, tweeters, x-over and tower enclosure along with the room, blend together to present a soundstage, dynamics and instrument localization that can't be replicated with a sub and bookshelves."
Bullsh%t...
TAM There are trade offs with both. If you have the space go big. Bookshelves are wonderful, but physics dictate they can not compete with the dynamics of more and larger drivers. It can be harder to properly blend towers to sub than bookshelves to sub by ear. Truth is, you can do neither 100% without putting a mic on it. Big towers with subs can be superlative, and scary. Scary dynamics are what makes content sound real. In a small room for music use there is nothing wrong with a bookshelf based setup. TAM is lucky. His wallet is not constantly wondering 'what if'? The problem I have is learning and 'what if' are as much the hobby as listening. But I'm a books and build kind of audiophile I guess. The more I learn the more Ive realized any system can be made to sound really good. But there are always trade offs.
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The more I learn the more Ive realized any system can be made to sound really good. But there are always trade offs.
So we agree TAM's system can be made to sound really good with M5HPs.
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BTW, if the music you like has notes below 20 Hz, the 500 may not be enough for you. I don't really know what I don't know yet. I have doubts that the old DefTech sub hit notes below 20 hz. The SVS might have, but I don't know how well. I'll just have to try out the EP500 and see how it sounds; it it doesn't hit low and I don't miss anything, I should be happy.
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