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Re: book or floor with dynamics myth
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I think either he’s already blown out his ears and needs an extra 10db boost To get him back to normal or something else is going on ... other then the speakers.
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That could be. Most of the orchestra recordings out there are garbage quality making listeners think they need to turn it up super loud to get emotional impact. It just ends up sounding worse. Rock, you sure you listening to good quality tunes?
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Could also be something in the audio pipeline is hitting clip (for example some levels maybe set way out of wack)
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Hey Rock, what song can you share you notice problems with. I’d like to try it out. At 100db.
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Lol. Lets get this sorted. It seems like a clipping issue in your chain or you are clipping your amp.
Can you walk us through your signal chain. What are the items below in your setup.
Source—->Preamp—->Amplifier——>Speakers
what is your preamp output, or in the case of an AVR trim level set at.
Next we will ask what is your amplifier input sensitivity, or in the case of an AVR what volume is the dial at?
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Thank you all for the help.
I think that you are right. As Mojo said, the M2s are being pushed into their non-linear operating range leading to greater harmonic and intermodulation distortion. When I just keep it to low to medium volume, the busy content still sounds good.
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Just want to add one point:
The great clarity of the good quality small bookshelf speakers decreases the volume need to hear everything from the music even in a larger room. A lot of times, you feel that you have to increase the volume to hear the details. With M2V4s, low volume listening could be very satisfied in a quiet environment.
Last edited by Rock; 01/08/21 07:32 PM.
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That's right! That's why they work in my 4200 cu ft room at 12 feet away. Nice job on your observations.
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Hey Rock, You might be asking too much of a specific small box but I imagine there’s one available that will handle the higher volume very well.
Jeff
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