Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Paradigm v. Axiom

Quote: "I don't need to justify my claims by posting as someone else!"

For the record, neither do I. Nor have I.

I saw the Rockets. They look cool. Maybe I'll look again.

The only thing I don't like about the M60 & M80 is their small woofers. I don't want to have to buy a sub. I'm not really a bass head. The Boston Acoustics I have now have 8" woofers and put out all the bass I need, but they're old and need to be replaced. I don't like this trend towards 6 to 6-1/2" woofers in floorstanding speakers. It's not much harder to build a 9" wide tower as opposed to 7". Hardly takes any more room, too. I can save some change if I don't have to buy a sub. Plus I might want to bi-wire the fronts.

As I mentioned earlier, purchase the Axiom's for a trial. Send them back if you don't like them. People here seem to lead toward the M60's but if you want a lot of bass, I've heard the M80's are the way to go. Again, it seems like you have gotten A LOT of advice around here and almost everyone has recomended that you buy the Axiom's and return them if you are not pleased. I do know that the Rockets have great reviews but they are top heavy so if you have kids forget about those. Also, the rockets will need a sub support and they do cost more $$ and seem to compair evenly with the M60's. Good luck with whatever direction you go in.

Do the Boston Acoustics have dual 8s? (just curious). The dual 6.5"s put out a lot of bass, because there's a lot of surface area there, certainly more than a single 8. From my experience with M50s, I'd say that you won't need a sub. It would be nice, but almost everything's there with just the 50s. And the 60s and 80s should be able to put out more bass just based on the fact that the cabinets are larger.

The math: two 6.5" woofers ~265 sq. in. surface area. one 8" woofer ~201 sq. in. surface area.

Thanks--I was too lazy to do that while eating my Cheerios.

They have single 8's. Two 6's may have more surface area and can play louder but an 8 can go deeper.

Size matters.

I guess I could live without it, though. Plus the center channel would make up for the single tweeter and midrange on the M60's vs. the M80's.

The M60's + the VP150 center + 2(M2i's) would be a sweet set-up. I guess I could always add a sub somewhere down the road if I had to, though I don't want to. I think that combo would give me plenty of sound, probably blow my neighbor's away, and I can hear his in my family room at 2:00 AM with the windows closed in both of our houses.

The price for that Axiom set-up is about the same for 5 Paradigm Monitors. (I'm estimating here.) And what I heard from my neighbor's speakers would make me shy away from the Digm's. I couldn't believe how much their sound had degraded in only a year. I know he runs 'em hard, but I didn't think it was THAT hard.

The Rockets are probably more than I will be willing to spend. I might audition the Streem's first, but I have a picky ear. If I don't like them, they're going back even though I'd have to eat the $100 (or so) return shipping charge. I'd like to avoid that if possible, plus it's always nice to have a Plan "B" in the works ready to go instead of having to hunt around for 3 months for another set-up.

The M60's + VP150 + M2's is a strong contender. From what I've read, I know it would sound awesome. But they're also twice the price of the Streem HT-808. Maybe they're worth it. I guess I'm going to have to find out for myself. There's no more reliable opinion than your own ear.

Regarding the Rockets...I do know that they have "B" stock that is about the same cost of the M60's/M80's so you might want to check their site from time to time. If you want to save on the Axiom speaker you can go through their "B" stock program as well and save about $50-$70 a speaker. I picked up my QS4's from there and could not find one issue with them, and I looked hard.

Did you ever get to audition the Streems? I cannot beleive we are revisiting that word.

Hate to bring it up here as it's kind of a kick in the face to Axiom but AV123 has a trade in program going on the Rockets........it's actually a good trade in program. Brings the prices down by a fair bit.

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Did you ever get to audition the Streems? I cannot beleive we are revisiting that word.

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lol Funny part is I was out at my bud's cabin over the long weekend and listened to them for almost 9 hours straight one day........................I still think the same of them but junk was a word I should have not used. There ok and let's leave it at that. I would never own them is about as harsh as I'm going to get this time around.