Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater QS4 or QS8 and why please

Sounds pretty darned good, doesn't it ?

Damn skippy it does. The only problem is that I wish I had put the QS4s farther back on the side walls. But what's done is done, and I've already put enough screw holes in this place...

I find it hard to believe that so many could find a massive enough tonal difference b/w the QS4s and 8s to make it worth consideration.
Those who've heard the M50s and 60s have often declared the difference as subtle and those 2 speakers are far more different.

QS4s vs QS8s should come down to room size more than 'tone' differences when deciding. Larger speaker for larger rooms.

Incidentally, i do believe the QSx series will match well as surrounds with Monitor Audio mains. They've been setup with some Tannoy Saturns in a friend's HT and they work excellent. Tonal differences for surrounds is over exaggerated too often IMO.

Have to agree, I've used four different surround pairs, including my spare M3s, and other than the ones that were just "too small" they all seemed to have worked well. The "best" were a dumb ol' pair of HTIB 3-way speakers-with an 8" driver-that, while they looked pretty silly hanging on the wall, even in our 26X16 listening room, did an admiral job of, uh...doing it's job.

However-there are some QS8 bugs crawling around my house, and they're really startin' to "Bug Me"!!

They're not low frequency bugs, however. So the question is:

Is the low range output sufficient enough so that someone dosen't want to instantly add a small sub in the rear? (I know, set them to "small" and all that, but they just aren't-full-range! And I "think" I can hear bass below 80!!

(I also would rather use my rear M3s, with tubes, in a dedicated listening room-but that's another story)
Rich.

Not sure I understand the question. If you set them to "small" all the bass will go to that big subwoofer in the front and (as always, in theory) you can't tell where in the room the bass is coming from anyways.

If you don't have a sub, the bass from the surrounds will go to your mains as long as your receiver supports it (HKs don't but everything else seems to).

Hi John;

Yeah, the question was, basically, how "big" do the QS8s sound? I've had some speakers that had a low freq responce of 80 that, when, say an aircraft flew from front to back would give more of a "Hisssss" rather than a satisfying "Roaaaar"(know what I mean)when it flew on back. And this was with the sub taking from 80 on down. Bottom line: With an 80hz direct speaker out back, there is a hiss in the back, a rumble in the room with a component of rumble eminating from the general direction of the sub.

Sub bottom line: Do the QS8s hiss, or kinda roar?

By the way, the "hisser" was a single 5.25", bass reflex, while the QS8s of course are dual 5.25s acoustic suspension, so that alone may make a difference. Also, I am currently running my M3s out back with the cross set to 60hz and am getting good "Mini Roar" with no annoying bass from up front, but satisfying-though somewhat reduced rumble in the room.

Below the sub, bottom line: If the QS8s, crossed at 80, are a "kinda Roarer" Does anyone feel the need to add a sub in the back to augment the QS8s to make them "full roarers" when that plane flies past and the rumble component that happens to still be up front gets annoying?

Bedrock sub bottom line: Have to hear them in this room to actually find out!

Anyway, I'll leave the questions intact: Anyone feel the need to add a sub out back? And do the QS8s hiss or roar?

I have two 250 watt 12" subs (one in each front corner) for the LFE and I also use two 150 watt 10" subs for my side surrounds. Each surround sub is wired in-line using the l/r inputs with a surround speaker then the surrounds are set to large. The surround subs crossover are set to 80hz and man when theres a plan flying by in the surounds you definately get a "roar". Without the surronds subs I get a hiss.

Here's a couple of pics:
http://pages.cthome.net/lradden/ht/images/P4240444.JPG
http://pages.cthome.net/lradden/ht/images/P4240442.JPG

Oh Yeah!! That's the ticket, Legairre!!

AND the results I was looking for! Hiss: OUT Roar: IN!!

Judging from the size of your, dare I say "fabulous" room, I'd guess you'd go for the QS8s! Were you planning on using the subs with them as well, or taking a wait and see approach, I suppose.

So, I'm not the only one with "hisssuroundsindrome".
Thanks for the input!
Rich.

I bet that room is gunna rock....

So what size room is considered big enough to warrant the use of 8's over 4's?? Would one want to use the same for surrounds and surround backs, or a set of each?

I owned the QS4's with the hybrid tweeter and then upgraded to 3 QS8's when I got a 6.1 reciever. honestly, I cant really tell a difference but at least I don't feel any upgradeitis. Well, except for with my sub. I want a better sub.