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#158662 - 02/14/07 05:50 PM Yet another M60 v. M80 question...
a401classic Offline
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Room is 23' x 19' x 8'. Planning on a 7.1 system - TV on the 23' wall - mains will be 14' apart - listening position only 11-12' back from mains with room behind the couch. I've read several comments here that the 80's like some distance to the ear. M60's are certainly big enough for the room, but I tend to "want a stereo so loud it will blow womens clothes off" - quote from "The Italian Job". Unless I hear some really negative feedback in another post, an Emotiva MMC/IPS system will power the whole thing.

Any comments greatly welcome.

Scott
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#158663 - 02/14/07 06:29 PM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: a401classic]
HomeDad Offline
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Scott you room is certainly large enough for the M80's, and if you want loud, the M80's will go there. I'm about 10' back from my 80's and they sound great.
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#158664 - 02/14/07 06:50 PM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: a401classic]
bugbitten Offline
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Works for me in a similar room!

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#158665 - 02/14/07 06:53 PM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: HomeDad]
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Only if you intend to listen in 2.0 mode will the M80's prove any different than the M60's. The M80's will be louder and a tad bit deeper in FR.

You indicated that it will be a 7.1 system, meaning a subwoofer will be present. Now you will probably be crossing over the mains around 70Hz +/- 10Hz. If that is the case, I say get the M60's and put the difference towards a sub that will "blow the clothes off"...


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#158666 - 02/14/07 06:56 PM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: agarwalro]
Wid Offline
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So if this is true the M22s with a sub should sound the same as te M60 with a sub, only the M60s will play louder. It the same basic thinking
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#158667 - 02/14/07 07:00 PM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: agarwalro]
bugbitten Offline
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Quote:

Only if you intend to listen in 2.0 mode will the M80's prove any different than the M60's. The M80's will be louder and a tad bit deeper in FR.




I've had 60s and 80s in the same room at the same time. I went with the 80s which sounded better to me even at low volume. YMMV.

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#158668 - 02/14/07 07:46 PM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: Wid]
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insanely louder.
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#158669 - 02/15/07 03:36 AM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: SirQuack]
a401classic Offline
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Thanks all. I also forgot to mention that I enjoy a preponderance of bass - M80's it is.

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#158670 - 02/15/07 09:55 AM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: a401classic]
RickF Offline
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Registered: 02/26/05
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Loc: Vero Beach, Florida
401, as a current owner of both the 60s and the 80s I believe you'll be quite happy with your choice ... don't get me wrong, the 60s are really a very great speaker but the 80s are even better, IMO.
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#158671 - 02/15/07 10:26 AM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: RickF]
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I agree Rick, I owned the 60's for two years, they do have killer bass, the m80's are a little better in that category. I don't think most people could tell the difference. In the mid's/highs category the 80's really shine.
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#158672 - 02/15/07 10:31 AM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: SirQuack]
Wid Offline
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Randy did you do a side by side comparison?
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#158673 - 02/15/07 09:01 PM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: Wid]
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That probably did not come out as I intended it to sound. I was trying to not discount the 60's for having lack of good bass. I think they are very good in that category. I think most people would be amazed at their performance, and most likely would need nothing better.

Yes, the 80's have better bass performance, which I assume is partially due to the larger enclosure. I would not say it is leaps and bounds better, but pretty noticable. If I never upgraded to the 80's, I would still be very satisfied with the 60's.

I did not get a chance to do a side/by/side comparison, but from memory I do notice an improved response in the low frequencies.
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#158674 - 02/15/07 10:42 PM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: SirQuack]
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Registered: 02/15/07
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The original poster is aware of the lower impedance, right? As a prospective buyer, I would have liked to purchase the 80s, as I want to blow my money on speakers for the moment, and not amplification. However, I don't want to stress out my Onkyo receiver with 4ohm towers.

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#158675 - 02/15/07 11:11 PM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: JohnMusician]
Wid Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
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Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.

The op mentioned the Emotiva MMC/IPS, this will not have any problems with the M80s. Audioholics used an Onkyo 601 to drive the M80s in a reveiw of the 601.
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#158676 - 02/15/07 11:18 PM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: Wid]
JohnMusician Offline
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Thanks wid. You may be assuaging my fears in getting the 80s. A different fear I picked up at audioholics was that the vp150 center Im looking at had a hard time keeping up with the 80s. I believe the reviewer may have suspected the double tweeters of the 80s to be the possible cause. Your thoughts?

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#158677 - 02/15/07 11:23 PM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: JohnMusician]
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I've never had a problem with my vp150 with either my m60's or my current m80's. If setup properly, you will be in Axiom utopia.
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#158678 - 02/15/07 11:24 PM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: JohnMusician]
Wid Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 6720
Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.

I will have to let someone else answer that for you. I don't run my M80s in a H/T set up. They are in a 2.1 music system. From the years I have been on the forum I don't think there has been a handful of folks that was not thrilled with the VP150.
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#158679 - 02/15/07 11:58 PM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: Wid]
JohnMusician Offline
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Registered: 02/15/07
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well thanks for the input wid n' quack. Im currently reading the audioholics vassallo link you supplied quack, thanks. Oh man, so I have 3 different totals on m80s/vp150/4xQs8/4xStands. factory outlet= 2,840. normal= 3,310. cherry-chestnut-semi(or high??)= 4,250. yoikes, decisions, decision, hehe. hey look, im already a regular!

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#158680 - 02/16/07 12:52 AM Re: Yet another M60 v. M80 question... [Re: JohnMusician]
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Registered: 03/07/05
Posts: 7399
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
John, as far as the finishes, you can order samples to see what you like. What you spend on them will be credited toward your purchase. Can't lose that way.
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