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#192599 - 01/16/08 07:59 PM
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#192605 - 01/16/08 08:22 PM
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I'll never be able to watch "Cocktail" again.
Wait. . .I was never able to watch "Cocktail" to begin with.
Whew.
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#192617 - 01/16/08 09:11 PM
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What an arrogant so-and-so.
Apparently, Scientology is "'The ethics of doing The Right Thing' for the incredibly weak-minded"
Wow.
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#192631 - 01/16/08 10:42 PM
Re: Tom Cruise...
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I'm waiting for the night I watch the news and read about a bunch of Cruise's followers who just drank some of his "Cocktails", laying around in bunk beds, with Nike shoes on, waiting for the Hail "Cruise" Bop comet to come and take them to their mother ship, lights out...
May God forgive them for they no not what they do.....
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#192639 - 01/16/08 11:04 PM
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I couldn't stand the mission impossible theme in the background....
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#192652 - 01/16/08 11:58 PM
Re: Tom Cruise...
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#192683 - 01/17/08 09:51 AM
Re: Tom Cruise...
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Funny you should post this, because I've been very anti-Cruise and anti-Scientology for some time. I had seen this clip of Cruise, and I've been following the story of the new biography on him that came out two days ago. Remember when he lectured Matt Lauer on the evils of psychiatry on the Today Show? Scientologists have been anti-psychiatry, very vehemently so, since their founding. I believe it was because L. Ron Hubbard realized that any good psychiatrist would call him crazy, and would therefore be a threat to him and his new cult that he was starting (more later). So in the next few days' aftermath, Katie Couric asked her co-hosts, on air, about Cruise, "Is he the conductor on the crazy train, or what?" The answer, it is clear, is "Yes, he is." There are numerous good web sites that expose Scientology as the cult that it is. A money-grabbing, brain-washing, delusional cult. Operation Clambake is a good place to start if you want to learn the truth about scientology. Here is a reprint of a damning Time article from 1991. Hopefully, the more their practices come to light and the more we all laugh at them, the less power they will attain.
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#192713 - 01/17/08 12:16 PM
Re: Tom Cruise...
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Hey Cruise, all aboard the crazy train.
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#192729 - 01/17/08 12:49 PM
Re: Tom Cruise...
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Good show, JP. Thanks for the links.
You gotta admit, though, Elizabeth Shue looked hot in Cocktail. At least I think she did. It's been about 20 years, so I might be mistaken.
Nevermind.
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#192735 - 01/17/08 01:40 PM
Re: Tom Cruise...
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Well, the majority of mainstream religions started as some kind of cult. I find it fascinating and frightening at the same time to see the beginning of a new ‘religion’.
The way Scientology is going, I wouldn’t be surprised if in 500 years Hollywood becomes the scientology’s Vatican city :P /sarcasm
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#192748 - 01/17/08 03:08 PM
Re: Tom Cruise...
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Well, the majority of mainstream religions started as some kind of cult. That is certainly NOT true. Cults like scientology are manipulative, brainwashing, moneygrabbing etc... Many religions didn't start out that way at all. JP is right about Hubbard and Psychology, I remember reading about a bad experience he had or something. Also scientology tends to claim it's a scientific movement to debunk scientology, then when scientists criticize them for their unscientific kooky claims, they claim to be a religion, they just go back and forth to get away with it (plus get off paying taxes).
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#192755 - 01/17/08 05:01 PM
Re: Tom Cruise...
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Today at work I called everyone into my office for a training video. Groans of protest turned into stunned silence as I played the Tom Cruise video.
I'm an evil boss.
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#192759 - 01/17/08 05:20 PM
Re: Tom Cruise...
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#192772 - 01/17/08 07:21 PM
Re: Tom Cruise...
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Today at work I called everyone into my office for a Tom Cruise video. Groans of protest turned into stunned silence as I played a training video.
I'm a sweetheart of a boss.
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#192774 - 01/17/08 07:38 PM
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Yeah, I like your version better. We spent the rest of the day discussing Scientology. It was a good team-building day. Also, spent some time on Wikipedia reading up on L. Ron Hubbard's creation--  is about all I have to say.
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#192806 - 01/17/08 08:34 PM
Re: Tom Cruise...
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This is so funny! I did not call anyone in my office, but I did send the link as a "mandatory viewing" to my employees. At least 25% of them knew about it. 100% are still scared of the guy...
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#193617 - 01/24/08 01:24 PM
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Jerry O'Connell has done a parody video and it is worth a look. My opinion of JO'C just went waaay up.
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#193620 - 01/24/08 01:34 PM
Re: Tom Cruise...
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Pretty good!
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#193630 - 01/24/08 02:58 PM
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Interesting parody.
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#193632 - 01/24/08 03:11 PM
Re: Tom Cruise...
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What the....
Finally took the time to watch this. I would like my 7 minutes back, please.
What a whackjob.
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#193652 - 01/24/08 04:47 PM
Re: Tom Cruise...
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Jerry O'Connell has done a parody video and it is worth a look. My opinion of JO'C just went waaay up. Thanks Doc, I needed that one today! 
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#211391 - 06/12/08 01:49 PM
Re: Tom Cruise...
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Dr. Drew's stock: up! Tom Cruise and his posse: down even further. Explanation.
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#211392 - 06/12/08 02:00 PM
Re: Tom Cruise...
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I cannot get over how monumentally frightening Tom Cruise is.
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#211408 - 06/12/08 04:46 PM
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I see your point, but Cruise puts himself out there in the media spotlight. He actively promotes Scientology as the "answer" to all kinds of things. He, himself, has linked himself firmly into what is widely accepted to be a cult. See my post (far) above for references.
So to reflect on his behavior is, to me, analogous to discussing any other news topic, e.g. politics, sports, that's in the public discourse.
Dr. Drew implied that Cruise has issues. He implied that a diagnosis may exist, but he was not diagnosing him. He did not say, "Cruise is bipolar" or "Cruise has thisorthat personality disorder." He did mention that Cruise suffered abuse, which, as the piece says, is fairly common knowledge. He does speculate on what effect that abuse could have on a person, e.g. Cruise.
So, sure, he may have barely crossed a line, but the lawyer's response made me laugh with its bluster and hyperbole. Like a commenter said, any time you throw the Hitler bomb in there, you've lost credibility.
My 2 cents.
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#211409 - 06/12/08 04:56 PM
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Good points, both Capn and JP!
That one clip of Cruise espousing Scientology is still fresh in my head, and it will always color my comments toward him.
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#211417 - 06/12/08 07:31 PM
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Yeah Sean. That clip haunts me, and gives me pause.
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#211418 - 06/12/08 07:55 PM
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I think it gives some women menopause.
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#211444 - 06/13/08 02:21 AM
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True. What sort of auditory neglect did we all suffer as children to be part of this Axiom cult?
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#211449 - 06/13/08 07:42 AM
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8-tracks and boomboxes?
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#211467 - 06/13/08 10:48 AM
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#211470 - 06/13/08 10:59 AM
Re: Tom Cruise...
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Hutz, I'm digging your new avatar.
A-NI-MALLLL!!!
With him and the Swedish Chef, there's been a refreshing Muppet influence around the boards lately.
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#211471 - 06/13/08 11:05 AM
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That was one of my favorite shows as a kid.
Still is, now that I think about it.
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#211473 - 06/13/08 11:12 AM
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Animal is a good musical mentor.
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#211474 - 06/13/08 11:15 AM
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GO HOME! GO HOME!
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#211475 - 06/13/08 11:16 AM
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What I really want to know is, how did you know that I was putting Animal on my sampler CD?
Spooky.
Well, if not Animal, at least TMBG and their Dial-a-drummer bit from a live recording of "She's Actual Size".
Heh.
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#211478 - 06/13/08 11:21 AM
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#211487 - 06/13/08 11:59 AM
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Hutz, since you aspire to the drums, I thought you'd appreciate this: Buddy Rich versus Animal, drum battle from the Muppet Show c. 1978. I couldn't find it in English, but the drums sound the same either way, eh? I love the look on Animal's face at 2:05 and 2:35 ...
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#215784 - 07/21/08 09:39 AM
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So imagine my surprise when I'm cruisin' the streets in my Bumblebee Camaro and I see this sign:  It made me dig up this old thread. Funny how this thread morphed into Muppet talk. We were all foreshadowing!
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