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#204685 - 04/18/08 05:13 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: anthony11]
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It would depend on the crossover, I would think.
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#204689 - 04/18/08 05:27 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: Mojo]
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 Originally Posted By: Mojo
I have the 601 series IIs from 1984. It took me years and years to set them up optimally but when I did, the soundstage was superb.

My 501sIV's are from .... hmmmm ... 1987 or so I think. What sort of things did you do to optimize their setup? I may end up sticking them in the tiny bedroom I'll be using for my office if/when I can score me some Axiom love. One day if I finish off all or part of the ground-floor garage for an office / media room the Axiom setup might migrate there and I'd use the Bose/Sony just for music upstairs. My brother is no longer with us so they have sentimental value. MAN I wish the artist who built the place had run conduit for speaker wires...

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It would depend on the crossover, I would think.

OIC.

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#204690 - 04/18/08 05:29 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: anthony11]
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Elope and go for the M80s. Money better spent. I hope my wife doesn't see this.
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#204691 - 04/18/08 05:32 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: NDinUSA]
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 Originally Posted By: NDinUSA
Elope and go for the M80s. Money better spent. I hope my wife doesn't see this.

\:D I hear you. We definitely have different priorities wrt the wedding stuff.

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#204695 - 04/18/08 06:15 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: anthony11]
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Here are the things I did:

- Speakers usually benefit from the golden triangle rule which says to make an equilateral triangle between you and your speakers. I found that the 601s didn't work this way. I had to space them considerably further apart than the distance I sat away from them. In my set-up, they were 10 feet apart and I was 6 feet away. This works out to be a ratio of 1.67:1 instead of the golden 1:1.

- I moved the backs of the enclosures 2 feet away from the wall I faced. This made a huuuuuuge improvement in soundstage depth.

- Toed them in 30 degrees from the normal. This focused the centre image which otherwise was too big.

- Kept them equidistant from sidewalls. This tremendously improved the imaging.

- Crossed them over at 100Hz.

- Turned up the treble half-way from 0.

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#204697 - 04/18/08 06:26 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: Mojo]
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You turned up the treble?!

Obviously we have different ways of listening to speakers. ;\)
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#204698 - 04/18/08 06:33 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: Ken.C]
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I keep tone controls set to flat with the M80s. It's a different story with the Boses.

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#204699 - 04/18/08 06:39 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: Mojo]
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 Originally Posted By: Mojo
It's a different story with the Boses.


That's Bosi.
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#204700 - 04/18/08 06:56 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: St_PatGuy]
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Oh, missed that bit. Nemmind...

I thought it was Bozos.


Edited by kcarlile (04/18/08 06:56 PM)
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#204708 - 04/18/08 08:03 PM Re: M60's or M80's [Re: Mojo]
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Ah. These 501's have no external controls.

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