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#229809 - 11/14/08 11:23 AM EP350 quick question
davemire Offline
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Hi Guys,

Been exceptionally long lurking (forgot my password), and as it happens the Mrs. just ordered the EP350 for my birthday! WOW is all I can say. Unfortunately the only other Axiom speaker I have at the moment is the VP100.

My question is, we have hardwood floors and I have noticed some people put their sub on a rug or towel. Is this recommended? Does the sub come with feet?
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#229818 - 11/14/08 11:46 AM Re: EP350 quick question [Re: davemire]
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Welcome davemire and congrats on the EP350.

Yes placing a throw rug is beneficial. Hardwood floors can create many acoustical problems because they are very reflective with sound.

You can even go a step further and place the largest and thickest rug you have and place it at the center of the floor to help dampen the sound reflections between the floors and ceilings.

Placing a rug underneath your sub will also protect your sub from getting scratched and it also protects the sub from scratching your beautiful hardwood floor.


Edited by Dr.House (11/14/08 11:56 AM)
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#229819 - 11/14/08 12:07 PM Re: EP350 quick question [Re: BlueJays1]
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Hi Dave,

The EP350 does indeed come with feet, which work just fine. The only problem I've encountered with the Axiom feet and my floor is that they tend to leave rings... not that I care, since I'm not particularly partial to my landlord. But that might be a good reason to put a rug down. I don't think there's much acoustical reason to just put a rug under the sub. Certainly taming the room a bit with a rug can have benefits, but that's really more related to higher frequencies than subs put out.
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#229821 - 11/14/08 12:29 PM Re: EP350 quick question [Re: Ken.C]
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Dave, the problems of reflectivity mentioned by the DR. cause more problems with your other speakers not the sub's lower frequencies. The subs do come with rubber feet but they might leave marks as Ken mentioned. It won't hurt if you place a small rug/carpet square under the sub.
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#229822 - 11/14/08 12:42 PM Re: EP350 quick question [Re: SirQuack]
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Thanks for the quick responses guys!

Fortunately my hardwood floors aren't "beautiful" so any circles it leaves is fine with me.

So the next question, and I know this is not a simple one is, do I match the sub with m22ti's or m60's. I have always wanted the 60's, but recent reviews have praised the new version of the 22's. I have heard both, and I adore both, but I don't have a large room. So I assume it's just preference? Will the EP350 fill any gaps with the 22's?
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#229823 - 11/14/08 12:43 PM Re: EP350 quick question [Re: davemire]
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It's pretty much preference. The EP350 should cover the lower frequencies for the M22 just fine. Me, I prefer the fatter sound of towers. However, I'm sure that could be emulated with the sub and bookshelves with time and tweaking.
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#229824 - 11/14/08 12:51 PM Re: EP350 quick question [Re: Ken.C]
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What is your budget Dave? How small is your room? I loved my 60's when I had them, killer bass for music that the 22's can't produce because of the smaller cabinet.
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#229825 - 11/14/08 12:54 PM Re: EP350 quick question [Re: Ken.C]
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I've noticed the rings as well, do you think those might leave permanent marks over time?
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#229829 - 11/14/08 01:11 PM Re: EP350 quick question [Re: SatKartr]
davemire Offline
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Budget is really dependent on time. I could get the 22's in the not so distant future, the 60's would probably require a year to save up. Lots of other things to pay for \:\)

Currently my living room is quite small 14 x 14 x 9 at best.

I suppose I will probably have to find someone to audition them, as it's been nearly 8 years since I last heard the m60's. They were what got me hooked on Axiom's.
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#229830 - 11/14/08 01:18 PM Re: EP350 quick question [Re: davemire]
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Having done much M22 listening recently, I would concur that the decision from M22 to M60 is mostly a personl one. The M22s do offer slighlty more detail than the M60s(from what I can remember of the M60s) and currently the M22 with my PB13 Ultra nears the same feeling I am getting out of my M80s+PB13, just not quite as full in the upper bass, which I believe, is why the M22+sub is sometimes said by myself and some others, to feel to be missing something.
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