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#242317 - 01/23/09 06:56 PM Axiom vs. av123's Rockets
a-rone Offline
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Registered: 01/23/09
Posts: 16
Loc: Utah
Hello all,
I am an av123 forum regular and am looking to upgrade speakers soon and am leaning toward av123's Rocket speakers. I have never listened to the Rocket speaker line. I currently own the X series (x-cs, x-mtm's and x-ls) and an MFW-15 subwoofer for a full 5.1 setup. I am intrigued by axiom with the price that includes shipping.

I would go with the following if I went the axiom route:
M80's
V150
QS8's

for around $2200

If I went with av123's Rockets I would go with:
RS850's
RS450's
RSC200

With the a sale price of $1999 + shipping it would come in around $2300 (just a guess)

The questions I have are as follows:

Does anyone on this forum have experience with both these setups?

What in your opinion are the highlights of axiom's sound vs. that of the Rocket speakers?

Is the vinyl cheap looking in comparison to the wood veneer of the Rockets?

Thanks
Aaron
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#242318 - 01/23/09 07:00 PM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: a-rone]
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Registered: 09/16/04
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I am sure someone will chime in about the audio quality, as for the vinyl, if someone didn't tell you it was vinyl, and as long as you weren't a woodworking craftsman, you'd probably never know it wasn't a real wood veneer. I know that others have said that not just here, but on other 3rd party web sites where they reviewed Axiom speakers. The quality is amazing.




Edited by nickbuol (01/23/09 07:01 PM)
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#242319 - 01/23/09 07:07 PM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: nickbuol]
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Registered: 05/03/03
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I've heard the RS850s (I think? Perhaps it was the 1000s) as well as the Bigfoot center and some Rocket surrounds, and I own M80s, VP100 and QS4s (yes, it's strange...). Overall, I prefer the sound of the Axioms, particularly when you involve the Bigfoot. It's heresy, but I was really not impressed with that unit. Now, the VP100 certainly isn't the top line center, but it also isn't audibly obtrusive like I found the Bigfoot to be (even after calibration). Hopefully I'm not insulting the very nice person who owns this setup...

The M80s are perhaps some of the best speakers I've heard. The RS series was very nice, but doesn't stand out in my mind like M80s or the Magnepans and Revels I've heard. Given that Paradigm Studio 100s don't stand out in my mind either may point out that my judgement may be somewhat suspect. ;\)

The Rocket finish is certainly lovely and better looking than the stock Axiom finish. However, if you can get ahold of Axiom's high gloss vinyl finish, that's probably pretty close in appearance to the Rockets. Of course, real wood is always better.
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#242321 - 01/23/09 07:13 PM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: Ken.C]
a-rone Offline
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Registered: 01/23/09
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Loc: Utah
Nick - Thanks for the info.

Calvin - What didn't you like about the Bigfoot?
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#242322 - 01/23/09 07:15 PM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: a-rone]
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#242323 - 01/23/09 07:15 PM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: nickbuol]
turbo16v Offline
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Registered: 01/19/08
Posts: 175
Loc: SkiUtah!
when i was in the market for speakers the two sets you are looking at were exactly what i was looking at. I ended up going for the axiom's due to cheaper price and WAY more reviews. However i must say the real wood veneer on the rockets is Absolutely beautiful and obviously is a step above axiom's vinyl. I ended up getting axiom high gloss cherry on one of their sales and am very happy with it though. I still wonder how the 850's sound....but its hard to imagine anything sounding better than the 80's for the price...or maybe double...
What i am interested in is the new LS speaker line the LS6 and LS9 look great!! and a well executed line array speaker is supposed to be amazing....better be for the price \:o

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#242324 - 01/23/09 07:19 PM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: turbo16v]
Ken.C Offline
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No, I'm not going to change my sig... Calvin's the one who said the qu--oh forget it.


aaaaanyway... the Bigfoot just sounded kinda artificial. Hard to describe it. Perhaps the midbass was overemphasized. I'm not really sure.
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#242325 - 01/23/09 07:24 PM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: Ken.C]
a-rone Offline
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Registered: 01/23/09
Posts: 16
Loc: Utah
 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
No, I'm not going to change my sig... Calvin's the one who said the qu--oh forget it.


That's to funny. Thanks for the info anyway.
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#242326 - 01/23/09 07:24 PM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: Ken.C]
BlueJays1 Offline
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Registered: 09/19/08
Posts: 4079
Loc: Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire
Look at these M80's and the VP150 in high gloss cherry. They are beautiful :). Some pics without grills and some with a custom grill. Grills made by turbo16v. Stunning!!

http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthre...&gonew=1#UNREAD

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#242328 - 01/23/09 08:14 PM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: BlueJays1]
BoB/335 Offline
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Registered: 12/26/08
Posts: 505
The Rocket 850's was one of the first towers I was looking into once I decided I wanted towers. I measured out the footprint and the height. Those are huge speakers. And heavy. I thought the shipping was high. The return shipping was high if I was to return them. The problems they were having with their subs concerned me but the defending attitude on the forum itself turned me off. There was almost a worshipping attitude there. No matter how bad things seemed to be people were defending like crazy almost blindly.

Of course this is just my opinion but something seemed weird. Someone mentioned Axiom on another forum I was on and I asked a million questions. (still have a couple more) Look for the thread titled "Why Axiom" for some thoughts.

btw if anyone thinks I should delete this post let me know.

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