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#242332 - 01/23/09 08:24 PM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: BoB/335]
HomeDad Offline
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We don't delete posts here, particularly someones honest opinion. Just stay away from religion and politics. \:\)
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#242335 - 01/23/09 08:53 PM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: Ken.C]
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
No, I'm not going to change my sig... Calvin's the one who said the qu--oh forget it.

A name change perhaps? ;\)
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#242339 - 01/23/09 10:06 PM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: HomeDad]
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 Originally Posted By: HomeDad
We don't delete posts here, particularly someones honest opinion. Just stay away from religion and politics. \:\)


I love politics and religion!

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#242349 - 01/23/09 11:27 PM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: BoB/335]
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#242353 - 01/24/09 12:33 AM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: pmbuko]
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bob/335 - I am a daily forum member at av123's forum and I in no way think your post should be deleted. Thanks for your thoughts.
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#242355 - 01/24/09 12:47 AM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: a-rone]
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 Originally Posted By: a-rone
bob/335 - I am a daily forum member at av123's forum and I in no way think your post should be deleted. Thanks for your thoughts.


a-rone I lurk around the av123 forum from time to time but not enough to get a feel for the regulars. When they had the temporary shutdown I noticed a few of people claming to be longtime members posting in other forums about how they weren’t going back when it came back up. I was just wondering how the forum has bounced back as it looks like they’ve been getting other things under control.

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#242363 - 01/24/09 05:26 AM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: grunt]
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It appears av123 forum is alive and well, not sure on how many regulars stopped going to it. I was amazed to read that MLS wanted to shut down the forum because he wasn't going to have time to over see it as he wanted to spend more time on more important matters, ie. production isssues to get ironed out, luckily he was talked out of it by Craig and a couple others.

a-rone, the other thing to think about with av123 is the wait time for the system, Mark appears to have his hands full with production issues, while Axiom has them ready and waiting for you, or you can wait for some Factory Outlet speakers 2-4 weeks depending on the stock finish, saving 10% plus another 5% for a HT discount of 5 or more items. Or you could go a little higher on the budget for a real wood veneer from Axiom.

Just wondering how you came up with the price for the Rockets, are you thinking about the black friday/christmas sale prices? I am not seeing any sale prices on their web site right now so the total for the Rocket setup is $3097 plus shipping.

The Axiom system is $2164.10 for stock purchase or $1948.45 from the FO, shipping included.
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#242366 - 01/24/09 07:23 AM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: jakewash]
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Registered: 07/25/05
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Loc: London area, Ont, Canada
Hi a-rone

I guess when you come to this forum your going to get biased answers. But you probably knew that already.

I have never heard any Rockets before, and I am sure they sound great. I don't think internet speaker companies can stay in business if they don't have outstanding products.

A couple of things. The M80's are 4 ohm where the 850's are 8 ohm. Depending on what you are going to use to drive them that may be a consideration. I personally like the 4 ohm as it sig. increased the wattage of the amplifer.

Axiom offers a 5 year waranty on there speakers, where the Rockets are only 3 years. This shows more of a comitment to Axiom's customers and confidence in their product.

I own the Boston Cherry vinyl, I have had them for almost 5 years and they still look great. I have a dedicated HT room so most of the time I spend in there is in the dark so, I am not as concered about finish as someone who will be putting their speakers in their living room. I have almost the opposite view on the finish of the Rockets, although the are very very nice, for me I don't want to pay extra for real wood. Why don't the offer vinyl at a lower price?

Just my thoughts

paul
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#242367 - 01/24/09 07:27 AM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: jakewash]
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Registered: 12/26/08
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Since Craig's name was brought up by a regular here, I would like to mention that I had contacted Craig early January. I had read a review that he wrote regarding the Axiom M80 vs Energy Veritas where he thought the M80 won out. I liked reading other posts that I had read by him (all of this at another forum)He seemed honest and thorough. I tried tracking him down through that forum and someone told me that he wasn't there much and gave me a tip where to find him.

At that time I was very interested in the Energy RC70 and looking for more info concerning them. Since he compared their higher end speaker to the M80 I became very curious about the M80 especially comparing the prices.

My question to him was since some time had passed since the date of that review, did he still feel the same way about the M80's. Here is his response:

Bob - Three years certainly went be in a hurry. The Axioms did well against the Energies in this test, but were later easily bested by the Rocket 850's ... to the point that the Axioms were sold. The 850's are a speaker one can listen to for hours, with not a bit of fatigue. I would also look at the X-Statiks. For the $$$, and especially with a good subwoofer, they are remarkable. One Caveat, should you still want to go with Axioms - get the wood finish. The vinyl is pretty fragile and prone to rolling at the seams. Hope this helps !! Craig


Edited by BoB/335 (01/24/09 07:29 AM)

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#242368 - 01/24/09 07:34 AM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: BoB/335]
BoB/335 Offline
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Registered: 12/26/08
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There were 2 more correspondances if you would care to know regarding the M80 vs the Rockets.

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