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#254166 - 03/28/09 07:51 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: jakewash]
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#254170 - 03/28/09 08:05 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: Adrian]
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Registered: 12/26/03
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Loc: Calgary, Alberta
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#254182 - 03/28/09 09:52 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: jakewash]
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Registered: 08/21/04
Posts: 308
Loc: montreal,qc,canada

I you want to check a m22ti+qs8+sub setup , you can come down my place, just send me a PM... I can let you hear the system in 5.1 and 7.1

I'm on the south shore.
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#254212 - 03/29/09 09:34 AM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: twoears]
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Registered: 10/28/08
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Loc: Montreal, Canada
It was nice to meet you last night Denis. I hope if you get the M50/M60 you pass by, i would like to here them to compare with the M80.
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#254220 - 03/29/09 11:26 AM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: Family Man]
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Registered: 03/28/09
Posts: 17
Loc: Canada, Montreal
FamilyMan, many thanks to you, your wife and family for being so welcoming and generous with your time. You have a powerful system and playing it at its cruise power is impressive.

My physical environment is quite different and calls for a less powerful system. My ears being a little delicate, my challenge is to pick speakers that can will perform well and give a rich sound in my room at moderate volume.

I don't know if capable speakers like the M60 will perform adequately at the moderate volume I will play them with my average Yamaha HTR-6190.

Whatever speakers I get, I will reciprocate and give you a chance to hear them.
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#254244 - 03/29/09 04:42 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: twoears]
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Loc: Iowa
The m60's and m80's sound great at low, mid, or high volumes. They are very efficient speakers and require very little power to play loud and clean. The specs don't lie.
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#254252 - 03/29/09 05:55 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: SirQuack]
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Loc: Calgary, Alberta
For low volumes the M80s have the edge over the M22s as the bass can still be heard with out a need for a sub. And as I have discovered, having more power only appears to enhance the low volume listening on the M80s.
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#254298 - 03/29/09 09:39 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: jakewash]
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Registered: 03/28/09
Posts: 17
Loc: Canada, Montreal
Thanks very much to LucRaymond who kindly opened his home and home theater to me.

He showed me what M22s can do with a subwoofer, small or large. It gives credence to the opinion supported by many that with an appropriate sub, it is not necessary, or much less necessary to have main speakers that have a strong bass.

I also liked very much the effect that can be obtained by playing music in 5.1 and 7.1. The QS8 performance was convincing, and it confirms them as my choice for surrounds; at least one thing solved!

After my auditions with FamilyMan and LucRaymond, who were very generous, I realize that one limitation is that my test CDs were insufficient. I have very few CDs left as I have converted almost all my music to MP3s (high bit rate, but I should have used a lossless format, had I known better).

As inaccurate as it is, my audio memory tells me that the sound I preferred so far was with the Monitor Audio RS6. I don't mean to say they are better than the Axioms, the audition was in different conditions; it was not an A/B comparison. I would like to have a chance to prove to myself that in equivalent conditions, the Axioms are just as good.

Since the MAs also have a nice bass, I may be able to live with them in a 5.0 HT system until I get a sub.
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#254303 - 03/29/09 09:51 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: twoears]
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Registered: 10/13/06
Posts: 139
Loc: Niagara Region, Canada
Hello,
Keep your original selection of M50s with a VP100, QS4 & EP350. Your room size requires no more to produce prodigious amounts of volume.
Perhaps use the extra cash on a DSP controlled sub, that’s where you’ll get the biggest bang for your $$$$!

Monitor Audio builds a VERY respected loudspeaker, wonderful equipment! \:\)
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#254307 - 03/29/09 10:08 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: lhulls]
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Registered: 12/26/03
Posts: 10398
Loc: Calgary, Alberta
You were originally looking at the M50's which do sound a bit different then the M22's. You could also look at the M60's, they have a very similar sound to the M22 for mids and highs with the added bass of a floorstanding speaker, like you said a sub is not really needed.
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