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#273664 - 09/30/09 09:54 AM Re: The world's newest Axiomite it born... [Re: Adrian]
Zimm Offline
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My understanding is that they use fiberglass (as many custom car subwoofer builders do) because it can be built to be extremely rigid, but allows for any shape. The JL box uses some unique curves that would near impossible with MDF (except for B&W!). I forget where, but I saw a thread on a tour of the JL plant and they show the how-to on the Gotham build. Very interesting, but not really DIY type stuff. But for $12K I guess you don't expect to have a souped-up DIY project.
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#273700 - 09/30/09 03:05 PM Re: The world's newest Axiomite it born... [Re: Zimm]
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Curved cabinets don't really have any effect on subs due to the low freq's though, right? I understand why many speakers are made with curves(cancelling standing waves) or angles but where a sub is concerned it must be for looks(a car application would be the exception with confined space).

The tour of the JL plant, is on their website I believe.
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#273726 - 09/30/09 04:03 PM Re: The world's newest Axiomite it born... [Re: Adrian]
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I have to say that back in the day I thought Patrick was great. It's just looking back on them now they seem pretty cheesy, but that's just the way it goes, over time most of what we used to consider cool becomes 'cheesy'.

I was really sad when I heard he'd lost his battle with cancer because I am a cancer survivor myself. However once I started reading up on his ordeal I found out that through everything he went through his wife failed in being able to convince him to give up on his '60 cigarette per day' habbit.... ummm, WHAT???

Ok so yeah cancer sucks, I know that first hand. But brother when you're fighting a life-threatening disease like that, you have to take off the gloves. That means.... uh, QUIT SMOKING!!! Not only is it probably the reason you have it in the first place, but going through all the chemo and radiation treatments is pretty pointless if you're just going to run out and breath in 3 packs of cigarettes that day. Sheesh, I still feel bad for the dude, but not AS bad knowing that he didn't give the battle his all. I know quiting smoking is no day at the park, I went through that too, but when it comes to life or death, the decision shouldn't be that hard.
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#273746 - 09/30/09 07:11 PM Re: The world's newest Axiomite it born... [Re: Micah]
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... I found out that through everything he went through his wife failed in being able to convince him to give up on his '60 cigarette per day' habbit.... ummm, WHAT???

Thats the nature of addiction. My father lost 3 close friends to cancer: lung and throat. The smoked to the bitter end. My father never quit either.
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#273777 - 10/01/09 01:01 AM Re: The world's newest Axiomite it born... [Re: Micah]
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 Originally Posted By: Micah
I know quitting smoking is no day at the park, I went through that too, but when it comes to life or death, the decision shouldn't be that hard.


I hear you. I've been smoke free for 35 years, except for one memorable night of debauchery on a business trip to Korea 20 years ago. But that's another story.
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#273795 - 10/01/09 10:33 AM Re: The world's newest Axiomite it born... [Re: wilwom]
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Yes I know all about addiction, it is an animal. I smoked until the day I saw my grandmother sitting in the hospital, dying of cancer (even though she didn't smoke, nor as far as we could tell did it have anything to do with grandpa's smoking habit... still I associated my smoking as leading me to the same place). It was by no means an easy thing to do, but I kept picturing my grandmother all doped up on moriphine, days away from death, and telling myself all the torture I was going through was to keep myself from winding up like she did.

The ironic thing is that at age 35, a full 12 years after quitting smoking, I wound up with Hodgkins Lymphoma and Squamous Cell cancer AT THE SAME TIME!!! And having experienced the fear that is knowing there is something inside your body trying its best to end your life, I can safely say that would have motivated me 100 times better than my dying grandmother ever could have. Even if I'd never been able to quit back in my 20's, it would have been an after thought once I was battling for my life.

Patrick made a few television interviews where he admitted he was scared and mad... mad because he wondered, "why me"? Now honestly, how can you suck down a cigarette every 16 minutes (the average time inbetween cigarettes in a 60 a day habit... assuming he didn't smoke during 8 hours of sleep) and with a serious face ask, "why me"?
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#273815 - 10/01/09 01:14 PM Re: The world's newest Axiomite it born... [Re: Micah]
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60 a day is indeed a lot...wow! Instead of having 1 cigarette after a meal he probably chain smoked one after another, after another, after another, lighting his fresh smoke with the one he is about to butt out in the ashtry and then mulitply that many times a day to equal 60 \:o
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#273835 - 10/01/09 03:44 PM Re: The world's newest Axiomite it born... [Re: BlueJays1]
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It's been said that 1 cigarette takes 11 minutes off your life, and on average non-smokers live 10 yrs longer than smokers. No doubt smoking is an addiction and should be treated as such. Aside from the obvious health benefits, the cost of smoking (in real $$, let alone health)is a big enough deterent for me.
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#273838 - 10/01/09 04:09 PM Re: The world's newest Axiomite it born... [Re: Adrian]
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I just watched Thank You for Smoking last night. Good movie. \:\)
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#273839 - 10/01/09 04:14 PM Re: The world's newest Axiomite it born... [Re: pmbuko]
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As a fan of Aaron Eckharts work, this is a great movie. Agreed!
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