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#286071 - 01/09/10 09:43 AM Re: M60s or M80s [Re: Argon]
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I'll do it ... I'll even post a couple of pics.

Frank the Tank is back! \:D
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#286073 - 01/09/10 09:53 AM Re: M60s or M80s [Re: jakewash]
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
No, it just helps even out the room response.


I don't really understand. If you set your crossover to 80Hz, won't the sub take care of all the frequencies below that? In that case, your mains will not play anything below that so any bass you'll have in your room will come from the sub. Am I missing something?
To reinforce my position, in that case, neither the 60s or the 80s will play anything below 80Hz and since their freq response is very similar above that I still don't understand why people have the 80s over the 60s if it's to use with a sub.


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#286076 - 01/09/10 10:04 AM Re: M60s or M80s [Re: SRoode]
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 Originally Posted By: SRoode
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Now that I have two EP800s


And I stress about spending $1500 for the M80s ... LOL
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#286080 - 01/09/10 10:21 AM Re: M60s or M80s [Re: bdpf]
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A sub can move more air, because of the bigger driver. Also, it just doesn't "cut off" at 80hz, there is a gradual slope or blend or hand off, whatever you want to call it...Frequencies below 80hz are non-directional, meaning you can't tell where they are coming from, which is the subs purpose.
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#286086 - 01/09/10 10:42 AM Re: M60s or M80s [Re: SirQuack]
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That's exactly my point, so the extra bass from the 80s will be meaningless if used with a sub since their driver will be much smaller than the subs.
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#286088 - 01/09/10 11:03 AM Re: M60s or M80s [Re: bdpf]
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 Originally Posted By: bdpf
That's exactly my point, so the extra bass from the 80s will be meaningless if used with a sub since their driver will be much smaller than the subs.


If that's the case why would there be a difference between the M60s and the M22s if you have them crossed over above their cut off point. You might as well go for the M22s with that mind set.
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#286089 - 01/09/10 11:14 AM Re: M60s or M80s [Re: Wid]
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Don't get me wrong, I don't have my mind set. I am just new to this and am trying to understand the whole theory behind this. Like I said, I will listen to them on Monday and maybe then I will understand what you people are trying to explain to me. Sorry if some of my questions don't make much sense. I am still learning.
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#286090 - 01/09/10 11:19 AM Re: M60s or M80s [Re: bdpf]
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Oh no problem. If Ian didn't think there were anything to gain (musically) with building his flagship speaker then I can't see any reason he ever developed the M80s. I've never heard the M60s but went with the best Axiom had to offer because of just that, it's their flagship. I sure didn't want any what ifs and I've enjoyed these speakers going on 7 years.
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#286091 - 01/09/10 11:23 AM Re: M60s or M80s [Re: Wid]
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Well, I for one don't cross my M80s at 80. I cross them at 40. My center and surrounds are crossed much higher.
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#286092 - 01/09/10 11:24 AM Re: M60s or M80s [Re: Ken.C]
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I cross mine over lower also.
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